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Re: Show HN: YouTube Shorts Redirector

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Post by Funes- »

pixelpoet wrote: post #24
Phiwise_ wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus adjust the volume! Really speaks to the modern state Google's in that they took out their own functionality to more closely clone TikTok, I assume. Paul Graham's got an old quote about what it indicated about Microsoft when they decided to clone Google's business, and it comes to mind every time I see those terrible and vertical thumbnails.

Wait, TikTok doesn't allow you to change the volume? That sure would explain the increase in blaring phones since they became popular with the idiocracy. Thanks to others who pointed out that uBlock origin can permanently disable (as opposed to being annoyed every 30 days) shorts on YT, instant quality of life improvement.

>That sure would explain the increase in blaring phones since they became popular with the idiocracy.

Oh, not at all. It's just that there's no in-app volume control, so they depend entirely on the phone's media volume. This is common in most mobile applications, I'd say. So all those people glued to their blaring phones are morons, to put it plainly.

Re: Show HN: YouTube Shorts Redirector

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Post by addandsubtract »

cqqxo4zV46cp wrote: post #37
boweruk wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regular YouTube videos on mobile also don't allow you to change the volume separate to the phone's 'master volume'. I don't think this is a TikTok/YouTube specific thing - you just don't see separate volume sliders on mobile like you would on a video playing on desktop.

Nor would I to, to be honest. That’s not the convention for mobile. I’d probably be confused if it were there.

VLC on mobile at least lets you swipe to change the volume.

Re: Show HN: YouTube Shorts Redirector

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Post by numpad0 »

Freak_NL wrote: post #32
victorstanciu wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I manually hide them every thirty days The inability of tech companies to accept that no means no, and not "bother me later" is a dark pattern that I've noticed more and more lately.

It seems to have gotten imbedded as 'just the way you ask users things' in UI developer's mindsets: Do you want to enable push notifications? [Yes please] [Later] How about [No]? Just add a note that I can always enable this later if I want to, but don't jerk around with this nudging making me feel I'm just postponing this choice.

It's called dark patterns as GP mentioned. They're financially motivated to improve [Yes] clicks, so they just remove [No]. It's completely Web-legal and Web-ethical.

IMO, something should have been done when A/B tests became normal(mid to late 2000s). That ship had long long sailed, but I believe that alone require independent ethics board if it is happening outside the Web. It should not be something easily handled with a blanket waiver in shrinkwrap EULA.

Re: Show HN: YouTube Shorts Redirector

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Post by ijustlovemath »

fotcorn wrote: post #16

Note that YouTube Shorts are just normal YouTube videos on a different URL. This means you can take a link to a Shorts like " rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ and change it to " rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= . This way, you won't get the dreaded doomscroll interface, and you can also scrub through the video!

Even better, turn off your watch history and in a few months Shorts refuses to work :)

Re: Show HN: YouTube Shorts Redirector

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Post by crtasm »

dvh wrote: post #39
crtasm wrote: post #38

Is there a way to get an RSS feed for a Youtube channel which excludes shorts?

I use wrapper RSS that adds 3 autogenerated thumbnails from which you see that it is short (because of the black boxes) and you can skip it. You can maybe analyze pixels of those thumbnails.

I found now that Piped includes duration in the RSS so might script around that. Wonder if Invidious could add that metadata too.

https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances

Re: Show HN: YouTube Shorts Redirector

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Post by frizlab »

ldenoue wrote: post #15
frizlab wrote: post #10

I have an even more radical solution. Whenever I have to watch something on yt (because I was sent a link to it), I download the video using yt-dlp and watch the downloaded video. I never ever go on the website :-)

You might enjoy my app (iOS only) to load and save the video and show you the transcript so you can only focus on that video https://www.appblit.com/scribe

This looks like a good app! I won’t have a use personally for it, but still looks good. How did you do the transcripts?

Re: Show HN: YouTube Shorts Redirector

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Post by Phiwise_ »

boweruk wrote: post #26
pixelpoet wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, TikTok doesn't allow you to change the volume? That sure would explain the increase in blaring phones since they became popular with the idiocracy. Thanks to others who pointed out that uBlock origin can permanently disable (as opposed to being annoyed every 30 days) shorts on YT, instant quality of life improvement.

Regular YouTube videos on mobile also don't allow you to change the volume separate to the phone's 'master volume'. I don't think this is a TikTok/YouTube specific thing - you just don't see separate volume sliders on mobile like you would on a video playing on desktop.

I was referring to desktop. Youtube shorts does not allow you to change the volume of the video on desktop, forcing you to open the volume dialog box and either turn down your whole computer or every window in your browser.

Re: Show HN: YouTube Shorts Redirector

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Post by brokenmachine »

victorstanciu wrote: post #4
fnordian_slip wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, I manually hide them every thirty days because I didn't know that ublock origin can do that, and I didn't want to install an extra add-on just for that (because I hoped that YouTube would some day realise how bad shorts are, and give up on them; wishful thinking, I know).

> I manually hide them every thirty days The inability of tech companies to accept that no means no, and not "bother me later" is a dark pattern that I've noticed more and more lately.

As Louis Rossmann would say, Rapist mentality.

Re: Show HN: YouTube Shorts Redirector

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Post by brokenmachine »

somat wrote: post #5
fnordian_slip wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, I manually hide them every thirty days because I didn't know that ublock origin can do that, and I didn't want to install an extra add-on just for that (because I hoped that YouTube would some day realise how bad shorts are, and give up on them; wishful thinking, I know).

I wrote a userscript that turns the links into a /v/ link. The whole "shorts" concept is sort of stupid. I mean the videos are fine, let people make whatever sort of video they want. the front page promotion is unwanted. But the thing I actively despise is the scrolling auto play interface. However youtube will play the video with a sane interface when the /short/ link is modified into /v/ Or I should say, I nearly w…

My tampermonkey script (credit to the original author, I forget where I got it from):

  // ==UserScript==
  // @name         Youtube shorts redirect
  // @namespace    http://tampermonkey.net/
  // @version      0.3
  // @description  Youtube shorts > watch redirect
  // @author       
  // @match        *://*.youtube.com/*
  // @icon         https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=youtube.com
  // @grant        none
  // @run-at       document-start
  // @license      GNU GPLv2
  // ==/UserScript==
  var oldHref = document.location.href;
  if (window.location.href.indexOf('youtube.com/shorts') > -1) {
      window.location.replace(window.location.toString().replace('/shorts/', '/watch?v='));
  }
  window.onload = function() {
      var bodyList = document.querySelector("body")
      var observer = new MutationObserver(function(mutations) {
          mutations.forEach(function(mutation) {
              if (oldHref != document.location.href) {
                  oldHref = document.location.href;
                  console.log('location changed!');
                  if (window.location.href.indexOf('youtube.com/shorts') > -1) {
                      window.location.replace(window.location.toString().replace('/shorts/', '/watch?v='));
                  }
              }
          });
      });
      var config = {
          childList: true,
          subtree: true
      };
      observer.observe(bodyList, config);
  };
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