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Re: Show HN: Parallel Arabic – Arabic reading and writing practice

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Im arab myself, hence the username :)

What I find fascinating myself is that no on actually speaks MSA, modern standard arabic. It is mostly used for written text that is meant to last? We dont text in standard arabic at all. Its used in government forms/legal documents etc..

This makes it such a challenge to teach ppl arabic since many books use MSA which can often sound alien to native speakers.

Re: Show HN: Parallel Arabic – Arabic reading and writing practice

#42

Im arab myself, hence the username :) What I find fascinating myself is that no on actually speaks MSA, modern standard arabic. It is mostly used for written text that is meant to last? We dont text in standard arabic at all. Its used in government forms/legal documents etc.. This makes it such a challenge to teach ppl arabic since many books use MSA which can often sound alien to native speakers.

> which can often sound alien to native speakers.

Do you mean alien in terms of being an unusual accent or that it's hard to understand?

Re: Show HN: Parallel Arabic – Arabic reading and writing practice

#43

I’m of Lebanese heritage and grew up speaking, reading and writing Arabic but then moved to Australia and never looked back for over 20 years. I’m slowly losing my ability to speak Arabic so I make a point of doing so when speaking to my parents nowadays. I also really love that tools like this exist so I can refresh myself. It’s a very sad thing to lose one’s mother tongue. I know it’s not the same dialect since it’…

As a Palestinian living in North America for over 20 years, I totally hear you about it being a sad thing. Feels heartbreaking and scary to me, given that it was part of my identity.

> Feels heartbreaking and scary to me, given that it was part of my identity.

I took two years of a language, merely for enjoyment, and it saddens me now that I've neglected to maintain my studies that I've lost most of what I learned. I get frustrated looking at sentences where in my prime I would have been able to sight translate with ease. I can imagine it's offers of magnitude worse to feel something similar with ones own native language, starting to struggle to use the language with which you had your first thoughts.

Re: Show HN: Parallel Arabic – Arabic reading and writing practice

#44

Im arab myself, hence the username :) What I find fascinating myself is that no on actually speaks MSA, modern standard arabic. It is mostly used for written text that is meant to last? We dont text in standard arabic at all. Its used in government forms/legal documents etc.. This makes it such a challenge to teach ppl arabic since many books use MSA which can often sound alien to native speakers.

> which can often sound alien to native speakers. Do you mean alien in terms of being an unusual accent or that it's hard to understand?

Very unusual accent. If you speak in MSA, I have to hold myself from laughing usually.

There are also definitely some words that I’ve never of that arent common in local dialects.

Re: Show HN: Parallel Arabic – Arabic reading and writing practice

#45
For someone like myself, the biggest challenge will always be that the alphabet (abjad?) is unfamiliar. I am aware that it's rtl, and that letters are connected (and have different initial, medial, and terminal forms... as in Greek sigma, or some Hebrew letters). This would be accessible to more people if you included something to learn it first. I've discovered that once I do learn an alphabet, I can pick out cognates and other such words enough to make that worthwhile even if I go no further. I was planning on devanagari or hangul next though.

Re: Show HN: Parallel Arabic – Arabic reading and writing practice

#46

I’m of Lebanese heritage and grew up speaking, reading and writing Arabic but then moved to Australia and never looked back for over 20 years. I’m slowly losing my ability to speak Arabic so I make a point of doing so when speaking to my parents nowadays. I also really love that tools like this exist so I can refresh myself. It’s a very sad thing to lose one’s mother tongue. I know it’s not the same dialect since it’…

I moved right about 10 years ago, kamen min lebnen :)

It’s actually a major thing I think about especially when it comes to any kids I might have.

Re: Show HN: Parallel Arabic – Arabic reading and writing practice

#47

I speak Arabic (Syrian) natively and I think this is great! Good work! I agree with other comments that it might be helpful to mention somewhere that this is colloquial Egyptian Arabic. I can tell the difference easily but might be difficult for those who don't speak Arabic at all. But I like Egyption Arabic and I think it's weirdly more suitable for short stories like yours! One more thing regarding the Arabic keybo…

Ah the keyboard was designed specifically for native english speakers, mapping the english letters to their closest approximate arabic equivalent.

For example s = س

Re: Show HN: Parallel Arabic – Arabic reading and writing practice

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All big enough languages have plenty of dialects.

The tool should teach arabic "classic" as it is intended for non arabic speakers.

The issue is that nobody speaks "classic" arabic in day to day life, so its not very useful. The egyptian dialect on the other hand is the most widely spoken dialect and understandable by most arabic speakers.

Re: Show HN: Parallel Arabic – Arabic reading and writing practice

#50

this is great - i would love to use this if it had MSA, levantine and egyptian dialects. It's a little annoying that a moving highlight is not present which is also tied to the audio playback. Would you consider implementing this?

That would be a great feature, definitely going to look into how to implement something like that.
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