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Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

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Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

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I know nothing about robotics, but can someone ELI5 why the robot makes so many extraneous movements? E.g. the video that shows it moving Takis from the desk to the nightstand, it approaches the desk, and then the arm mechanism moves all the way down (an unnecessary maneuver), then rises again before reaching the level needed to pick up the Takis.

A lot of those movements are there to zero out the axes so that each movement starts from a known good position and orients itself against the camera. Usually there's a switch that, for example, senses when the body goes all the way to the bottom, which is the origin for the whole positioning system. Several other movements are for safety since it doesn't have a bunch of cameras and really complex logic for collision avoidance so it resets to a smaller profile between moving around.

Since motors are capable of very precise movements and errors accumulate, this is a best practice when starting new movements. Humans instead have a complex hand-eye coordination system that trained all of our lives (and some people are better at it than others).

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

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This is remarkable and could be life changing for the disabled, elderly, gamers, or profoundly lazy and their caretakers.

I forgot where I saw that, but generally, improving things for people with disabilities improves things for everyone, like making sidewalks wheelchair friendly helps parents with a stroller, or people carrying heavy stuff, walking with a cane, young children on bicycles, people who can't see well...

I heard this from Anna Martelli Ravenscroft in her presentation "Diversity as a Dependency" [0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOpdDxJzNkw

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I applaud — for real — your ideas and feelings here. I’ve had similar thoughts my whole life, growing up reading golden age science fiction. But I worry very much that tools like this will be used primarily to increase corporate profits and reduce money spent on humans, rather than remove drudgery from people’s lives and allow them to do things more aligned with their goals and natures. E.g., if we make a cleaning ro…

I don't think you should reevaluate it in that context. Golden age science fiction assumed what we seem to be now calling AGI and still don't know how to create. What we're now calling artificial intelligence (thanks to OpenAI) is effectively an advanced version of autocomplete with infinite computing power behind it. It's incredibly inefficient, and if we ever build AGI we'll look back at AI like people looking back…

Dignity should be intrinsic, not a result of labor. Of course, labor is today necessary, (and in a way will always be necessary by someone), so working is indeed dignified to the extent it helps other people.

I think chores aren't necessarily the terrible boredom. But having a robot as an option, you can do them as a sort of hobby if and when you want. That seems nice.

I think we also will need to develop maturity to deal with our free time, but it's probably not the disaster I've seem many claim (that we lose meaning) -- maybe their way to cope with an unfair world? or my way to cope with laziness.

The main thing is how to protect ourselves from rulers when we aren't necessary for labor. It seems like a difficult but solvable problem. Being able to choose how much to work (and play) is the dream!

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

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It is opensource but still costs nearly 25k dollar. why is it that expensive ?

Where’s the price? Do you have a link to the product page? Thank you

Here is the page for Hello Robots: https://hello-robot.com/

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

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This is remarkable and could be life changing for the disabled, elderly, gamers, or profoundly lazy and their caretakers.

I forgot where I saw that, but generally, improving things for people with disabilities improves things for everyone, like making sidewalks wheelchair friendly helps parents with a stroller, or people carrying heavy stuff, walking with a cane, young children on bicycles, people who can't see well...

>> improving things for people with disabilities improves things for everyone

Everything has its limits. Many years ago I was involved in building a series of staircases in a rock climbing area inside a park. There were about a hundred steps in a handful of orientations to get from the parking lot over a rocky hill to the small valleys behind. The project was primarily to prevent trail erosion and falls. These steps weren't going to even have handrails. (Think 2x6 framed boxes filled with dirt and bolted to the rock.) Then someone in government said if we wanted to use donated money inside a park we would have to somehow make the project wheelchair accessible. All stop. Project over. No stairs were built. Access trail remained a mess.

We were going to replicate these stairs from another climbing area in BC. There is no way to make such a thing wheelchair accessible.

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Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

#48
I've been watching this project for a while now, great progress!

I envision an integration with a mobility aid (eg, a wheelchair) for someone with limited control over their limbs. Imagine a "smart" exoskeleton that can help with otherwise impossible tasks -- it could be a game-changer for so many people.

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

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A friend is working on a slightly related project, I’m curious how they map out the room in voxels, anyone care to suggest how this is done?

The mapping process can be done with any RGB-D cameras, we use an iPhone pro but any apple devide with AR-Kit should work. Once we have a sequence of RGB-D images with associated camera poses, we can just backproject the pixels (and any associated information, like CLIP embeddings) using the depth into voxels.
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