I question the ability of a bunch of depressed people to help each other.
I think if you are hanging around forums about depression, then you almost want to remain depressed.
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#42When I was 14, I was a year into playing all weekend every weekend with my first rock band. We recorded on a 4-track. Out there, at Guitar Center, were machines that could record 8 tracks. And pedals with crazy things like digital delay. Stuff that cost more than our parents made in a week. But you had a slim chance of being noticed and a slimmer chance of becoming a rock star. If you only worked harder AND had that…
The Strokes are a very odd choice to single out as undeserving musicians... Julian is a very palatable talented singer, their riffs are unique, and they put in the work with 6 albums, shows, and music videos.
>Julian is a very palatable talented singer, their riffs are unique, and they put in the work with 6 albums, shows, and music videos.
Source? Or your opinion? I don't necessarily disagree with you but those are some bold (opinion) claims.
Re: Show HN: Made a forum for depressed founders to confide
#43When I was 14, I was a year into playing all weekend every weekend with my first rock band. We recorded on a 4-track. Out there, at Guitar Center, were machines that could record 8 tracks. And pedals with crazy things like digital delay. Stuff that cost more than our parents made in a week. But you had a slim chance of being noticed and a slimmer chance of becoming a rock star. If you only worked harder AND had that…
That's an interesting and depressing story. Do you have some sources about them hiring models? They are not obvious to find on the Internet
John Casablancas, the father of Stroke's lead singer, owned Elite Model Management, one of the world's largest models agencies, if not the largest at the time. Rumors among the knowledgeable fans is that Julian used to ring up to his father agency to send "fans" at their initial shows. [1]
This without doubt influenced the decisions of venue owners to book them. Even if they were in on the ruse, who can afford to reject the well known "multiplier effect" 20-30 models would have for your venue?
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/TheStrokes/comments/j0v5gy/stumbled...
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to take away agency from people who choose to model, but you're saying their entire job is basically just being used anyway so fuckit? [edit] I wasn't saying I feel specifically bad for the models in this scenario, just for society at large, average kids who are set up to believe that fake humans and fake influencers are living the lives they want so desperately.
Not to put too fine a point on it: we're all being used anyway, the big difference is the pay grade but other than that I really don't see the difference between one profession where you sell your body for $x / hour or another. Of course we all tell ourselves that we're different/better/smarter based on the rate difference without noticing it is the exact same game and that the people on the paymaster side are the sa…
I strongly disagree that we're all being used, let alone in the same way that models are used. For one thing, there's skilled work and unskilled work. There's pride in skill, and dignity in work. Then there are people who actually create things, with money being a secondary objective that happens automatically. Do you think construction workers or carpenters consider their use of their time and bodies more or less useful than models? Are they used in the same way? What is the general purpose of a model other than to obfuscate a sales pitch? Do sculptors or painters think they're just as used, physically, as fast food workers? I hope not.
And then, aside from those who create and those who make things sits the marketing apparatus. The rent seekers and extractors and MBAs. You might consider them the paymaster side, but I just view them as unnecessary parasites. We don't all work for them... and when we do, some of us come to unique arrangements that maintain our creative control and our dignity.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
By this logic, musicians are "used" as machines to play music, cooks as machines to churn out dishes, and bus drivers just allow to use themselves as vehicle guidance computers. Hello, this is called "work". If you think that looking impeccably good and appropriate takes no effort or no intellect, look at a mirror, and try that.
> If you think that looking impeccably good and appropriate takes no effort or no intellect, look at a mirror, and try that. Let's not pretend it isn't 99% genes when talking about models.
what would you know