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Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

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If you send through Cloudflare Workers using MailChannels, the sending is free with no cap.

Woah cool! I actually hadn't heard of this. Would be cool if I can integrate this into the platform. Been thinking of adding other backends like Sendgrid and Resend.

Resend founder here - let's make it happen

Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

#42
post #35

How do you manage reputation?

Emails are sent using your own AWS SES account, which will handle all of that. No real concern of people sending spam because they would be damaging their own SES reputation.

Well that’s not a MailChimp alternative my friend. That’s a wrapper around SNS, there’s a reason those of us in marketing wouldn’t accept this.

I don’t even like MailChimp but there’s a real reason to use an app like them/similar. They help you not screw up "all of that" is complicated.

Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

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Major problem with this is that your customers should ideally never expose their databases for public access.

Devils advocate here: if you created a database user, which has access to a single View of with email, name, and whatever relevant subscription properties, how is that functionally different than what everyone does today which is to set up some Rube Goldberg contraption to pipe that audience information to mailchimp, sendgrid, or exacttarget?

Personally, I find this really intriguing and think it would be much better for data security because it would be far less likely that they will have my customers’ email addresses lying around their database months or years after I cancelled the service.

Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

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I think there are some good ideas here, but the target audience imho is not clear. Email marketing cheaper is a great attention grabber: kudos for the good copywriting. Step 1: Link to AWS SES... humm, for that your target audience must be tech-savvy. Step 2: Query your database... humm, linking my database to a strange system? No freaking way! But assume for an instant that this would be ok. For this, your target au…

The market for entrepreneurs/companies who know how to create IAM credentials but don't have the time or skills to build an entire email marketing platform on top of Amazon SES is bigger than you think (I co-founded EmailOctopus which does the same thing without the database hookup, which is a cool idea).

Good luck with it @kashnote

Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

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post #43
post #19

Major problem with this is that your customers should ideally never expose their databases for public access.

Devils advocate here: if you created a database user, which has access to a single View of with email, name, and whatever relevant subscription properties, how is that functionally different than what everyone does today which is to set up some Rube Goldberg contraption to pipe that audience information to mailchimp, sendgrid, or exacttarget? Personally, I find this really intriguing and think it would be much better…

Right. It reminds me of SetVar and GetVar as a solution to exposing state

Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

#46
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emails are sent using your own AWS SES account, which will handle all of that. No real concern of people sending spam because they would be damaging their own SES reputation.

Well that’s not a MailChimp alternative my friend. That’s a wrapper around SNS, there’s a reason those of us in marketing wouldn’t accept this. I don’t even like MailChimp but there’s a real reason to use an app like them/similar. They help you not screw up "all of that" is complicated.

And mailchimp is a wrapper of other tech, but it's still its own thing.

Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

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I think there are some good ideas here, but the target audience imho is not clear. Email marketing cheaper is a great attention grabber: kudos for the good copywriting. Step 1: Link to AWS SES... humm, for that your target audience must be tech-savvy. Step 2: Query your database... humm, linking my database to a strange system? No freaking way! But assume for an instant that this would be ok. For this, your target au…

> The greatest thing about the idea is "email marketing cheaper".

Welcome to customer service hell.

And the inevitable competitor who will do it cheaper. If all that differentiates you is low price, good luck.

Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

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Congrats on the launch! Lots of really good stuff going on here, a few bits of feedback, ideas, etc, and also responding to some of the comments in other threads. * The quick explanation of how this works is pretty strong, but I think the differentiator/value over other services maybe isn't called out as well. To me, this seems pretty clearly ideal for smaller teams all in on JAMstack/serverless with a lean stack tha…

Amazing points, thanks so much! Totally agree with you on the docs. I'll definitely look into creating some sort of agent (or some other solution), but I agree that some docs explaining everything will ease the minds of those who are on the fence.

Hm interesting point on the open sourcing and monetization. I've been thinking a lot about this and still not sure if it's wise to open source it. I definitely want to generate revenue from this. Perhaps going open source would be detrimental to that.

Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

#49

I think there are some good ideas here, but the target audience imho is not clear. Email marketing cheaper is a great attention grabber: kudos for the good copywriting. Step 1: Link to AWS SES... humm, for that your target audience must be tech-savvy. Step 2: Query your database... humm, linking my database to a strange system? No freaking way! But assume for an instant that this would be ok. For this, your target au…

The market for entrepreneurs/companies who know how to create IAM credentials but don't have the time or skills to build an entire email marketing platform on top of Amazon SES is bigger than you think (I co-founded EmailOctopus which does the same thing without the database hookup, which is a cool idea). Good luck with it @kashnote

EmailOctopus looks really nice! If I have a fraction of the success you guys seem to have, I'd be very happy haha

Re: Show HN: I made a MailChimp alternative that connects to your database

#50
the biggest challenge to fix is the double opt-in and opt-outs. CANSPAM and lots of other regulations make it tricky to not do this well. And if u start getting marked as spam, then SES will ban you.

this stuff is so critical that people will not use anything other than mailchimp. if you want to disrupt this space...disrupt this part of the product.

second biggest feature - support for Liquid templates. https://dripemailtemplates.com/tutorials/liquid-templates-gu...

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