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Re: Show HN: Currl – A free text-based social bookmarking website

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Post by glaucon »

marcellus23 wrote: post #22
tuananh wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

pinboard.in has been around for quite awhile :)

Pinboard is abandoned. Not just in the sense that no new features have been added in years, but in the sense that existing features are actually broken and are not being fixed, despite still accepting money from customers.

I feel obliged to point out that the term 'abandoned' might be misinterpreted here.

I use pinboard every day, have done so for a decade and it works exactly as intended.

The fact that there have been no recent new features troubles me not one jot, my keyboard hasn't had any recent new features either, it just works.

Judging by the last time pinboard was mentioned on HN, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34062802, the 'archive' feature, which is a 'pay extra' feature, causes dissatisfaction amongst some people, I can't comment on that as I don't use it.

Pinboard is run by a single person so if you're a user it would be sensible to use the 'export' function from time to time to allow for the owner getting sick etc.

Re: Show HN: Currl – A free text-based social bookmarking website

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Post by selcuka »

jedberg wrote: post #32

We've come full circle. :) First there was del.icio.us. Then reddit was started with the original idea being "del.icio.us with voting". And now we're back to del.icio.us!

> Then reddit was started with the original idea being "del.icio.us with voting".

I believe the original "del.icio.us with voting" was Digg [1]:

> Digg also faces competition from other social news services like Reddit, Newsvine, and Netscape, and while none of them has gotten to Digg’s level, it’s still early in the social news race.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20061013230150/http://www.conver...

Re: Show HN: Currl – A free text-based social bookmarking website

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Post by muppetman »

glaucon wrote: post #41
marcellus23 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pinboard is abandoned. Not just in the sense that no new features have been added in years, but in the sense that existing features are actually broken and are not being fixed, despite still accepting money from customers.

I feel obliged to point out that the term 'abandoned' might be misinterpreted here. I use pinboard every day, have done so for a decade and it works exactly as intended. The fact that there have been no recent new features troubles me not one jot, my keyboard hasn't had any recent new features either, it just works. Judging by the last time pinboard was mentioned on HN, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34062802 ,…

It's pretty low to take money from people for new signups, while knowing that features are broken for your existing customers and doing nothing to even acknowledge you're aware of it. When it's pointed out here on HN, idlewords (Pinboard owner/operator) just turns up and makes comments mocking everyone and leaves again.

My pinboard account still works fine too but I moved to raindrop.io recently because it's the same thing as Pinboard, done better, with apps, and a dev that cares.

Might not be abanndoned but it's certainly in "fend for yourself" mode.

Re: Show HN: Currl – A free text-based social bookmarking website

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Post by TenJack »

toastercat wrote: post #12

Is it open source and self-hostable? At this point I no longer trust these kinds of services since they always seem to be abandoned, suffer from enshittification, or just degrade. I need to know I can migrate easily once it happens.

May be worth checking out Bookmark OS (https://bookmarkos.com). Been around for 8 years and I am continuing to add features!

Re: Show HN: Currl – A free text-based social bookmarking website

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Post by jedberg »

selcuka wrote: post #42
jedberg wrote: post #32

We've come full circle. :) First there was del.icio.us. Then reddit was started with the original idea being "del.icio.us with voting". And now we're back to del.icio.us!

> Then reddit was started with the original idea being "del.icio.us with voting". I believe the original "del.icio.us with voting" was Digg [1]: > Digg also faces competition from other social news services like Reddit, Newsvine, and Netscape, and while none of them has gotten to Digg’s level, it’s still early in the social news race. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20061013230150/http://www.conver...

The reddit founders had no awareness of Digg until a few months after they launched. Also, Digg didn't have downvotes, which was a key innovation, because technically delicious already had "upvotes" based on how many people bookmarked the same site.

And when we visited Digg later on, we (reddit) discovered that we had double their traffic.

Digg had better marketing but reddit was bigger for most of it's life.

Re: Show HN: Currl – A free text-based social bookmarking website

#46

Post by defrost »

jedberg wrote: post #45
selcuka wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then reddit was started with the original idea being "del.icio.us with voting". I believe the original "del.icio.us with voting" was Digg [1]: > Digg also faces competition from other social news services like Reddit, Newsvine, and Netscape, and while none of them has gotten to Digg’s level, it’s still early in the social news race. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20061013230150/http://www.conver...

The reddit founders had no awareness of Digg until a few months after they launched. Also, Digg didn't have downvotes, which was a key innovation, because technically delicious already had "upvotes" based on how many people bookmarked the same site. And when we visited Digg later on, we (reddit) discovered that we had double their traffic. Digg had better marketing but reddit was bigger for most of it's life.

I suspect one factor in early reddit growth was early promotion on and rapid adoption by many of the (original) freenode IRC crowd (and extended spouses, famil, etc).

I recall the days when it was a "proof of concept" single page lisp based site(?) that got taken on as the default place to post links for ranking and persistant comment (alongside other tool sites like pastebin for text content pastes etc.)

The early theoretic comp sci posts died off and cats took over, followed by subredits etc .. and here we are :-)

Re: Show HN: Currl – A free text-based social bookmarking website

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Post by selcuka »

jedberg wrote: post #45
selcuka wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then reddit was started with the original idea being "del.icio.us with voting". I believe the original "del.icio.us with voting" was Digg [1]: > Digg also faces competition from other social news services like Reddit, Newsvine, and Netscape, and while none of them has gotten to Digg’s level, it’s still early in the social news race. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20061013230150/http://www.conver...

The reddit founders had no awareness of Digg until a few months after they launched. Also, Digg didn't have downvotes, which was a key innovation, because technically delicious already had "upvotes" based on how many people bookmarked the same site. And when we visited Digg later on, we (reddit) discovered that we had double their traffic. Digg had better marketing but reddit was bigger for most of it's life.

Sure. I did not imply reddit copied Digg. Just pointing out the fact that Digg was chronologically the first (or at least earlier than reddit).

> The reddit founders had no awareness of Digg until a few months after they launched.

This is an interesting anecdote as Digg was already big by then (they actually released Digg 2.0 in July 2005, the same month reddit launched).

Re: Show HN: Currl – A free text-based social bookmarking website

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Post by billbrown »

glaucon wrote: post #41
marcellus23 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pinboard is abandoned. Not just in the sense that no new features have been added in years, but in the sense that existing features are actually broken and are not being fixed, despite still accepting money from customers.

I feel obliged to point out that the term 'abandoned' might be misinterpreted here. I use pinboard every day, have done so for a decade and it works exactly as intended. The fact that there have been no recent new features troubles me not one jot, my keyboard hasn't had any recent new features either, it just works. Judging by the last time pinboard was mentioned on HN, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34062802 ,…

I pay for archiving and it was broken for a bit. I've emailed him a few times about it and I can say that it is totally working now—like save a bookmark and it's archived same day or sooner.

If you sign up for Pinboard at this point and expect new features, then it's on you. I pay for uptime and maintenance. (Paid in 2010, 11k bookmarks, very satisfied.)

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