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Re: Show HN: Web0.cc – Generate clutter, ad and tracker free article pages to share

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Post by henshao »

dmje wrote: post #19

I saw "generate clutter..." in the title and thought "why would I want to generate clutter?" I know it's a minor point but I'd go "Remove clutter, ads and trackers from any article" for a stronger initial proposition.

To hop on this tagline train...open to any critiques.

"Share any link with ads and tracking removed."

Rationale:

Sharing = most important verb/subject. Followed by the subject (links)

Ads and tracking - people know what ads are, they might know what tracking implies. trackers may be more abstract.

Clutter - removed this word. What does clutter mean in this context?

Re: Show HN: Web0.cc – Generate clutter, ad and tracker free article pages to share

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Post by wunderlust »

carapace wrote: post #21
dmje wrote: post #19

I saw "generate clutter..." in the title and thought "why would I want to generate clutter?" I know it's a minor point but I'd go "Remove clutter, ads and trackers from any article" for a stronger initial proposition.

> Generate clutter-, ad-, and tracker-free article pages to share I miss hyphens.

This is correct, and without the hyphens it reads like a garden-path sentence[1], which is one with an ambiguous structure that normal readers tend to parse incorrectly.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence

Re: Show HN: Web0.cc – Generate clutter, ad and tracker free article pages to share

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Post by web0_cc »

dmje wrote: post #19

I saw "generate clutter..." in the title and thought "why would I want to generate clutter?" I know it's a minor point but I'd go "Remove clutter, ads and trackers from any article" for a stronger initial proposition.

My bad.

First of all thank you all for the feedback & suggestions.

I think these all are good suggestions. I will pick one for sure

Re: Show HN: Web0.cc – Generate clutter, ad and tracker free article pages to share

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

dmje wrote: post #19

I saw "generate clutter..." in the title and thought "why would I want to generate clutter?" I know it's a minor point but I'd go "Remove clutter, ads and trackers from any article" for a stronger initial proposition.

Was also thrown off by the ambiguous grammar. But for me the thought was "Finally, a submitted example of using AI as a means to generate garbage to be consumed by "tech" companies as 'data, the new oil'."

Faculty cannot detect the use of "AI". We have much about that. But neither can "tech" companies.

As for the submission, unlike archive.is, archive.ph, etc. web0.cc does not require Javascript, it does not require the user to solve a CAPTCHA, it does not insist on EDNS0 (ECS),^1 and it does not connect to the following third party URLs

https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api.js?onload=onloadCallbac...

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/ping?sitemap=https:/...

https://a.publir.com/platform/1100.js

https://a.publir.com/sellers.json

https://a.publir.com/ads-txt/505/ads.txt

https://top-fwz1.mail.ru/js/code.js

1. Including disabling the use of Cloudflare DNS. Even when a user is not using EDNS0, archive.ph still collects the user's IP address using DNS. For example,

   https://[YOUR_IP_ADDRESS].[YOUR_COUNTRY].inc1.358424231.pixel.archive.ph/x.gif
Further, archive.ph does not seem to work with archive.org. Web0.cc seems to work:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230313185743if_/https://web0.c...

Re: Show HN: Web0.cc – Generate clutter, ad and tracker free article pages to share

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Post by web0_cc »

ignoramous wrote: post #5

I use archive.is because it removes ads, cookie banners, and doesn't execute archived webapage's javascript.

Thats good.

Honest question, Would you enjoy reading articles from archive.is on your mobile phone?

as far as i remember, its not mobile-friendly.

Re: Show HN: Web0.cc – Generate clutter, ad and tracker free article pages to share

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Post by web0_cc »

nmstoker wrote: post #24

Nice. How about creating a bookmarklet to make it super easy to share a web0.cc link from the current page? Then people don't need to copy the url, go to web0.cc, paste it and submit. Also maybe if the refresh can be reliably done after a few seconds then you could make the page refresh itself automatically (it's not difficult for the user but it's one less thing to handle). You could tweak the refresh time by how bu…

Thanks for the feedback & suggestions.

>> Nice. How about creating a bookmarklet to make it super easy to share a web0.cc link from the current page?

Sure, i will do it

>> Also maybe if the refresh can be reliably done after a few seconds then you could make the page refresh itself automatically (it's not difficult for the user but it's one less thing to handle). You could tweak the refresh time by how busy your site is.

Thats a good feature but it involves JS and for some reasons i decided not to put JS on the client side.

Re: Show HN: Web0.cc – Generate clutter, ad and tracker free article pages to share

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Post by web0_cc »

jszymborski wrote: post #23

Seems to truncate this article https://web0.cc/a/e-cYg2rJ8Q https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/03/floating-solar-panel...

Yea. due to lazy loading. Fix is simple but it comes at a cost

Thanks for finding the bug.

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