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Re: Show HN: I made a new AI colorizer

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Can I paint some colors as a starting point (like img2img) and let it finish the rest? What about a conversation, like, "the dress isn't blue, it should be orange", doing on top of previous prompt?

not yet, these are great suggestions. it's always a dilemma to add features to mitigate the performance of a weak model, instead of making a better model. most of the problems go away with a better language and colorization model, and many model-specific features are made in vain

I think there are two uses for an AI colorizer. One is to generate a color image that looks great, another is to generate an image that accurately reflects the true color of things.

A better AI model helps a lot with the first goal, but help only so far with the second one. Truth to be told, there is a lot of contextual color information in black and white photos that an AI model can exploit; but nothing beats someone that knows, for sure, the color of the dress of someone in the photo.

I mean, take a look at https://www.reddit.com/r/ColorizedHistory/ - some of those color artists do a lot of research to know the exact shade of green of the military uniform of some country in the 19th century, and things like that, just to have an accurate reference.

So I think that the ability of directing the color output (either by rejecting a color textually, or by painting over the figure with a starting point - even if maybe I'm not painting with the exact tone or texture but a rough color that should help the AI to figure out the details) is essential for a colorization product, even if the model is flawless!

Re: Show HN: I made a new AI colorizer

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not yet, these are great suggestions. it's always a dilemma to add features to mitigate the performance of a weak model, instead of making a better model. most of the problems go away with a better language and colorization model, and many model-specific features are made in vain

I think there are two uses for an AI colorizer. One is to generate a color image that looks great, another is to generate an image that accurately reflects the true color of things. A better AI model helps a lot with the first goal, but help only so far with the second one. Truth to be told, there is a lot of contextual color information in black and white photos that an AI model can exploit; but nothing beats someon…

Actually, thinking of /r/colorizedhistory, here's a comparison of a professional colorization and palette.fm https://www.reddit.com/r/ColorizedHistory/comments/y5mfqu/pa... vs https://www.reddit.com/r/ColorizedHistory/comments/y5mfqu/pa...

My concern here isn't that the professional photo has higher quality (in this case it has, but give it some time - months or years - and maybe technology will catch up). It's that sometimes we already know the right color, while the AI must always guess

Re: Show HN: I made a new AI colorizer

#44

Wow! I am impressed. I uploaded a WWII photo of airmen posing in front of their plane and got an amazing result. I’m not certain if WWII era life vests were bright yellow, that seems out of place, but it’s a good guess if not.

Found some that are yellow, not sure how bright we're talking - https://www.ima-usa.com/products/original-u-s-wwii-usaaf-mae...

Re: Show HN: I made a new AI colorizer

#45
I thought from the title it was some JavaScript to auto-colorize essentially any programming language and was excited, because that stuff is annoying to implement for any new programming language out there.

Still cool though.

Re: Show HN: I made a new AI colorizer

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are two uses for an AI colorizer. One is to generate a color image that looks great, another is to generate an image that accurately reflects the true color of things. A better AI model helps a lot with the first goal, but help only so far with the second one. Truth to be told, there is a lot of contextual color information in black and white photos that an AI model can exploit; but nothing beats someon…

Actually, thinking of /r/colorizedhistory, here's a comparison of a professional colorization and palette.fm https://www.reddit.com/r/ColorizedHistory/comments/y5mfqu/pa... vs https://www.reddit.com/r/ColorizedHistory/comments/y5mfqu/pa... My concern here isn't that the professional photo has higher quality (in this case it has, but give it some time - months or years - and maybe technology will catch up). It's that…

true, thanks for adding context!

Re: Show HN: I made a new AI colorizer

#48
(Genuine) question, and no snark intended: why do so many people want to change history?

Black and white photos are - for many of us - part of our shared historical record. Is there really a need to improve (=change) them? Can't we appreciate them exactly as they are, without modifications?

Re: Show HN: I made a new AI colorizer

#49

(Genuine) question, and no snark intended: why do so many people want to change history? Black and white photos are - for many of us - part of our shared historical record. Is there really a need to improve (=change) them? Can't we appreciate them exactly as they are, without modifications?

Some use picture to imagine how life was back then. Life wasn't black and white.

Same with the facial expressions in old photos. People look pretty serious but that's just because of the technology pf photography back then. People were as silly and joyful as nowadays.

Re: Show HN: I made a new AI colorizer

#50

(Genuine) question, and no snark intended: why do so many people want to change history? Black and white photos are - for many of us - part of our shared historical record. Is there really a need to improve (=change) them? Can't we appreciate them exactly as they are, without modifications?

Most people see the life in color and are not used to black and white images. Color give way more depth and understanding.
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