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Re: Show HN: SnoopForms – Open-Source Typeform Alternative

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Post by scottydelta »

twostorytower wrote: post #38
scottydelta wrote: post #37

I might be an outlier but not a big fan of the pricing model. $0.02 per submission can get very expensive very fast. For 10,000 submissions, it will cost the user $200 where as Typeform costs $83 for the same[1]. Is it really that expensive to store 10,000 rows of data? I understand the other features provided with the storage such as analytics and integrations but it still doesn't justify the cost imo. While you can…

If it's really not that expensive, couldn't you just self-host it? I think the developer is just trying to make a reasonable amount for providing a service for those who don't want to self-host.

As someone who self-hosts a lot of apps myself[1], I can assure you it's not easy to self-host/maintain the apps. Even for very technical people, it still takes a lot of effort to self-host apps(setup server, run in docker, configure a web proxy like caddy/nginx, provision ssl certificates, add firewall security etc) along with doing regular db backups just for one person.

[1] https://vikashbajaj.substack.com/p/the-slippery-slope-of-sel...

Re: Show HN: SnoopForms – Open-Source Typeform Alternative

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Post by jebronie »

twostorytower wrote: post #39
jebronie wrote: post #23

Since you are german: Your website is in violation of the GDPR and german law in general. Fix those problems immediately or I will report you.

There's a way to point this out without the hostility.

I threatened the report because I wanted to annoy the OP who seems to be a leftist. I can only threaten OP this way because leftists created this stupid GDPR legislation, which I have to deal with almost every day.

A report to the ULD will also most likely only result in a slap on the wrist.

I actually did them a favor by pointing out their problems, because some german law firms use crawlers to detect GDPR and other violations. They then send cease-and-desist orders and collect expensive legal fees for that.

Re: Show HN: SnoopForms – Open-Source Typeform Alternative

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Post by samatman »

nivertech wrote: post #27
beanclap wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that was the idea, great to hear it resonates!

Is there a hard limit/upper cap? What stops some spammer from ramming the bill?

This is very important. I'm rather averse to signing up for paid service which is only limited by the option I provide for payments. It took me years to be willing to put a service on autopay which is merely variable, such as a power bill.

Re: Show HN: SnoopForms – Open-Source Typeform Alternative

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Post by samatman »

nprateem wrote: post #11
beanclap wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

hey! Interesting, this is kinda where we came from. We thought that with a form you always try to get as much information as possible, hence your "snooping" around. You took it a step further, good that extensive form analytics are coming :)

I wouldn't want to have to list on my privacy policy that we use a tool called snoop anything. Change the name.

I don't disagree in this case, yet Little Snitch doesn't really have this problem. Then again, it's more obvious that the Snitch is on your side.

Re: Show HN: SnoopForms – Open-Source Typeform Alternative

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Post by the_common_man »

scottydelta wrote: post #41
twostorytower wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's really not that expensive, couldn't you just self-host it? I think the developer is just trying to make a reasonable amount for providing a service for those who don't want to self-host.

As someone who self-hosts a lot of apps myself[1], I can assure you it's not easy to self-host/maintain the apps. Even for very technical people, it still takes a lot of effort to self-host apps(setup server, run in docker, configure a web proxy like caddy/nginx, provision ssl certificates, add firewall security etc) along with doing regular db backups just for one person. [1] https://vikashbajaj.substack.com/p/the-s…

Try something like cloudron or yunohost for selfhosting

Re: Show HN: SnoopForms – Open-Source Typeform Alternative

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Post by scottydelta »

the_common_man wrote: post #46
scottydelta wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who self-hosts a lot of apps myself[1], I can assure you it's not easy to self-host/maintain the apps. Even for very technical people, it still takes a lot of effort to self-host apps(setup server, run in docker, configure a web proxy like caddy/nginx, provision ssl certificates, add firewall security etc) along with doing regular db backups just for one person. [1] https://vikashbajaj.substack.com/p/the-s…

Try something like cloudron or yunohost for selfhosting

I will try them out, thanks for the suggestion

Re: Show HN: SnoopForms – Open-Source Typeform Alternative

#48

Post by victor106 »

scottydelta wrote: post #41
twostorytower wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's really not that expensive, couldn't you just self-host it? I think the developer is just trying to make a reasonable amount for providing a service for those who don't want to self-host.

As someone who self-hosts a lot of apps myself[1], I can assure you it's not easy to self-host/maintain the apps. Even for very technical people, it still takes a lot of effort to self-host apps(setup server, run in docker, configure a web proxy like caddy/nginx, provision ssl certificates, add firewall security etc) along with doing regular db backups just for one person. [1] https://vikashbajaj.substack.com/p/the-s…

I am sorry I failed to understand, so you just want everything for free?

The developer should not only open source his/her work but also host it free for you?

Re: Show HN: SnoopForms – Open-Source Typeform Alternative

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Post by scottydelta »

victor106 wrote: post #48
scottydelta wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who self-hosts a lot of apps myself[1], I can assure you it's not easy to self-host/maintain the apps. Even for very technical people, it still takes a lot of effort to self-host apps(setup server, run in docker, configure a web proxy like caddy/nginx, provision ssl certificates, add firewall security etc) along with doing regular db backups just for one person. [1] https://vikashbajaj.substack.com/p/the-s…

I am sorry I failed to understand, so you just want everything for free? The developer should not only open source his/her work but also host it free for you?

Typeform costs $83 for 10,000 responses[1](it's reliable, been around for almost a decade, used by leading companies around the world and it provides way more features than this) where as snoopforms will cost $200 for the same number of responses. That is more than 200% markup.

I am merely comparing prices here.

[1] https://www.typeform.com/pricing/

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