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Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

#41
Shortcuts being CTRL-dependent on Windows is _the_ main reason I do not use it on any of my machines.

MacOS' ⌘-dependent (CMD?) shortcuts are much more ergonomic. I use my thumb to trigger shortcuts, vs on Windows having to use my pinky's knuckle.

On Linux you can emulate this same behavior by switching ctrl/alt/win keys (gnome-tweaks has this option). One thing I am unable to emulate, however, is ALT+left/right arrow for home/end.

Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

#42

The first time I remember something like this on linux was on Ubuntu's Unity in 2012. It is also the default on Ubuntu 20.04, so I think it was enabled the whole time for the last 10 years. Anyone knows if KDE also does that and, if yes, since when?

I just tried on Plasma 5.24.2 and yes, it seems this is a feature. I'm happy this exists, I never knew about it.

Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

#43

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> I just don't understand how that is difficult. It's not difficult, but why do they make it difficult to "just go to the previous window", whose default shortcut was alt-tab on almost all systems (windows + gnome + kde)? Maybe you have a specific workflow with a specific set of apps you use in a specific order in which case your brain is hard-wired to know whether you'd like to switch app or window within an app. I…

You seem to have the concept in your mind of open windows vs open apps. I've never thought of it like that, and always have the concept of apps in mind. Not thinking of apps seems as foreign to me as grouping windows as apps seems foreign to you. It would be interesting to see the differences between how either was learned to really grok the difference.

Everybody that didn't start with mac has that concept of open windows, it shouldn't come as a surprise. If you like the way Apple tells you to do it, it works great. If you don't like it, Apple is bent on taking away customisation options one by one.

I also find the window management in Osx terrible. Thankfully a couple of third-party apps (BetterTouchTool and AltTab) fixes most of the issues.

I'm happy with my mac, but if those third-party solutions stop working, I'd switch back to linux in a heartbeat.

Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

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> Then again, some people find math hard, others find it easy. To each their own. Way to be condescending. The presented opinion is clearly reasonable, as is yours.

No condescension intended. It was just a regocnition that what someone finds instinctual others find less so. It was one of the lessons not learned until much later in life for me that allowed me to become much less frustrated when working with others.

You got it wrong, this is not about finding something more difficult or less instinctual, this is about personal preference.

Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

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You can remap it in system preferences. For a UK keyboard it makes the most sense to map it to “section” which is directly above tab.

I map that key (without Cmd) to Escape on my Touch Bar MacBook... The best, yet should be unnecessary, key map tweak.

I did that on my old TouchBar Mac too, life saving. As soon as they brought out one with an escape key I replaced it. And again when the new ones came out with no TouchBar at all. What a farce the TouchBar was.

Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

#46

Shortcuts being CTRL-dependent on Windows is _the_ main reason I do not use it on any of my machines. MacOS' ⌘-dependent (CMD?) shortcuts are much more ergonomic. I use my thumb to trigger shortcuts, vs on Windows having to use my pinky's knuckle. On Linux you can emulate this same behavior by switching ctrl/alt/win keys (gnome-tweaks has this option). One thing I am unable to emulate, however, is ALT+left/right arro…

You can swap keys on Windows too. So, hooray! You can use Windows on any of your machines!

Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

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Anyone know of a roughly equivalent utility or config setting that lets one do Windows-style app-independent window switching on Macs?

I use Contexts ( https://contexts.co/ ) which works great.

You get per-window switching, with the normal picker modal (so you bring only your desired window to the front, and not every window you cycle through like Cmd-`).

As a bonus, Contexts has an option to only choose from windows on your current "space", which is really important for me.

Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

#48

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> I just don't understand how that is difficult. It's not difficult, but why do they make it difficult to "just go to the previous window", whose default shortcut was alt-tab on almost all systems (windows + gnome + kde)? Maybe you have a specific workflow with a specific set of apps you use in a specific order in which case your brain is hard-wired to know whether you'd like to switch app or window within an app. I…

You seem to have the concept in your mind of open windows vs open apps. I've never thought of it like that, and always have the concept of apps in mind. Not thinking of apps seems as foreign to me as grouping windows as apps seems foreign to you. It would be interesting to see the differences between how either was learned to really grok the difference.

> You seem to have the concept in your mind of open windows vs open apps. I've never thought of it like that, and always have the concept of apps in mind.

For me, windows windows tend to be for discrete tasks. E.g., on one space I have a browser for coding stuff, and on another space I'll have a browser for email/chat. So it's important that I can switch to a specific browser window, rather than my viewport being dragged over to another space because that's the last browser I looked at. Same for code editor windows.

macOS' keyboard shortcuts aren't good for this workflow. I understand Mac prefers gesture- or mouse-oriented solutions like Mission Control, but that's a much less ergonomic approach for my needs.

Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

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post #33

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You can remap it in system preferences. For a UK keyboard it makes the most sense to map it to “section” which is directly above tab.

I map that key (without Cmd) to Escape on my Touch Bar MacBook... The best, yet should be unnecessary, key map tweak.

I can't recommend BetterTouchTool enough for touch bars. You can setup custom buttons, gestures, widgets, etc.

On mine I do: - A button to show desktop at the top left, so I can tap it, start dragging something, and tap again to drag things into windows

- some common function keys for editing

- links to work webpages and note files I use frequently

- Some shortcuts to system stuff: play/pause media, silence notifications, take a screen shot, etc.

- swiping with 2 fingers controls volume, 3 for screen brightness, 4 for keyboard backlight.

All of these have become second nature, and turned the touchbar from a nuisance to disappointment future macbooks won't have them anymore.

Obviously it still may not be useful to you, but it might be worth trying the demo as long as you're stuck with it for now.

https://folivora.ai/

Re: Show HN: Switch windows of same app with hotkey (alt + `)

#50
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Let's say you have three browser windows, three terminal windows, and three file manager windows. Also, each window corresponds to a project/task, such that the logical groups are really (browser1, terminal1, files1), etc. Make sense? Next, you want to show all of the windows from a single task, each one at the highest focus relative to all other windows of the same application. Only being able to switch applications…

The multi-monitor stuff is much better now. I’d revisit. It persists for me across display configuration changes.

Thanks. In the mean time, I've started using the alt-tab tool. This makes my Mac OS experience more closely match my Linux experience, which I also find important now that I'm using both machines with the same KVM devices, on a switch.
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