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I find the principle of a "health pass" a little disturbing. Do we want to live in a society where we have to prove something about our health in order to attend events ?
Its been the case internationally for decades. Yellow fever in african countries for example
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Because - People would have to know which QR to show - Organizers could get more access to data by telling users "not that QR, the other one" ?
But that would be illegal...
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If the alternative is death, sure.
Which it certainly is not, if you look at the numbers.
So perhaps it's not death, but definitely economical stagnation.
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In general no, we don't. But pragmatically in the current circumstances this seems to be the best option (or least bad) until things are sorted.
> current circumstances As Milton said, "Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program." Officials have already hinted that masks, lockdowns, etc. will be implemented (at least seasonally) forever.
Gattaca. I’m curious tho where does it stop. For example, US stopped TB vax long time ago while half of EU continues. Those born in EU bear the scars on their arms from the vax. Sure TB isn’t as prevalent in the US as it used to be but there’s nothing stopping it from coming on a plane. Bacterial infections of the lungs are very hard to fight esp with the increase of antibiotic resistance. A single cough from a TB in…
It'll probably stop shortly after France achieves a high enough level of vaccination to (more or less) stop community spread. Based on the UK, Israel and the US, 60% looks like it gets you pretty close to that.
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Yellow fever is debilitating at a very high rate...
Covid is highly lethal for some category of people..
Is not the vaccine available for anyone who wants it? The point of the Yellow Fever vaccine is to get it when traveling to a country where it is prevalent and you don't have the immunity of the local population, and not to bring it back to an unprotected population.
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People who drive (especially SUV) will clearly cause statistical deaths, it's not ambiguous.
Cars don't infect other cars on the road.
If the vaccine works, why in the world do you care who doesn't want to take it?
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Which it certainly is not, if you look at the numbers.
People sick with corona going to events will clearly cause statistical deaths, it's not ambiguous.
People with any kind of cold symptoms going out and mingling also clearly cause statistical deaths, it's not ambiguous. Yet, we lived in a world where people did that routinely and it was left up to parents to protect their children from influenza, something far deadlier than Covid19 for them.
Also, destroying economies, livelihoods, preventing socialization, travel will also clearly cause statistical deaths, it's not ambiguous.
But, I guess, Covid19 means the saint class never owning up to their mistakes.
Beatings will continue until morale improves, I guess.
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Do you think governments are going to give up their power after implementing digital passes?
Yes. There is no reason for people to keep being tested all the time for Covid if/when that is no longer a risk. Once/if the risk has passed this will all stop because there is neither a justification nor value for governments to continue. It's a little paranoid to claim that governments are continuously trying to create totalitarian states. Or that, in any case, they can do what they want, they can't. We already see…
What in human history makes you think that?