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Re: Show HN: Ameelio.org – Free Prison Communication Platform

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How does your company handle the costs of mailing or delivering the letters?

My name is Zo, I'm one of the co-founders of Ameelio. We are completely self-funded at the moment, so we need all the help we can get! We were recently accepted into one of Mozilla's accelerators, so this will provide us some additional funding. As a 501c3 we're eligible to receive grants and donations, so we're furiously applying to grants and reaching out to foundations. 34% of families with a loved one in prison f…

You guys are incredible.

Re: Show HN: Ameelio.org – Free Prison Communication Platform

#42
> Nearly one in two Americans has a family member who is either currently or formerly incarcerated. > 34% of families with a loved one in prison are sent into debt by the cost of maintaining contact.

Can you add links to the sources for these stats? They just sound unreal and I'd like to understand better how the cost of maintaining contact becomes so high.

Re: Show HN: Ameelio.org – Free Prison Communication Platform

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Are your products open source so volunteers can contribute?

I'm really glad you asked. Initially, the plan was to open source all of our tools. However, we decided to hold off on that until we pick an appropriate license for each project and do some more planning. We're looking for volunteers though and I would love to work with you on this. Feel free to contact us. team@ameelio.org

Re: Show HN: Ameelio.org – Free Prison Communication Platform

#45
Hi I'm Kiran, the finance manager for Ameelio. We are 100% committed to keeping our tools free for users - they're some of the most vulnerable in society and it is a tragedy that they are getting fleeced by predatory companies.

As our founder said, we're completely self-funded and all volunteers right now. That's to say - we really need $$ to keep sending letters. If you have spare resources during these times, we would really appreciate it if you could help us out and donate! Here's a link: https://www.aplos.com/aws/give/ameelio/general

Re: Show HN: Ameelio.org – Free Prison Communication Platform

#46

It's sad that as a society we've allowed those who are serving their time to be exploited, but this is a good way to fight back, and hopefully make exploitation of the imprisoned a less lucrative market for unscrupulous actors.

Exactly my thoughts! Really, we shouldn't have prisons at all, or any against-one's-will system. Just take a look at Chicago. With the new attorney general, they've made it a policy to "go easy" on the violent crimes. The bottom line is: no one should be in prison, regardless of the "crime".

Re: Show HN: Ameelio.org – Free Prison Communication Platform

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does your company handle the costs of mailing or delivering the letters?

My name is Zo, I'm one of the co-founders of Ameelio. We are completely self-funded at the moment, so we need all the help we can get! We were recently accepted into one of Mozilla's accelerators, so this will provide us some additional funding. As a 501c3 we're eligible to receive grants and donations, so we're furiously applying to grants and reaching out to foundations. 34% of families with a loved one in prison f…

Are you looking for a contributor? I would be happy to volunteer my time. I'm a software developer and am pumped about your mission.

Re: Show HN: Ameelio.org – Free Prison Communication Platform

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My name is Zo, I'm one of the co-founders of Ameelio. We are completely self-funded at the moment, so we need all the help we can get! We were recently accepted into one of Mozilla's accelerators, so this will provide us some additional funding. As a 501c3 we're eligible to receive grants and donations, so we're furiously applying to grants and reaching out to foundations. 34% of families with a loved one in prison f…

Are you looking for a contributor? I would be happy to volunteer my time. I'm a software developer and am pumped about your mission.

We'd love to have some help with development. Please reach out to us. team@ameelio.org

Re: Show HN: Ameelio.org – Free Prison Communication Platform

#49

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Could you elaborate on what your experience was and the pushback you received? It would also be interesting to hear a bit more about what you built!

Many states ban any kind of social media access by inmates, even through a third party https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2017/may/5/texas-prison... Obviously there's some nuance as to whether Soundcloud is social media, but the bigger point is that prisons want to control inmates' ability to communicate

>the bigger point is that prisons want to control inmates' ability to communicate

For good reason. Uncontrolled inmate communications result in things like murder:

"The complaint alleges that Corbett planned several killings with Ronald Dean Yandell, aka Renegade, an Aryan Brotherhood leader who prosecutors say sits on the three-man commission that runs the gang. Corbett and Yandell were incarcerated 220 miles apart from one another, but regularly communicated through contraband prison cell phones, prosecutors say." https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/02/01/ca-inmate-was-killed-...

"Consider the case of a, a 38-year-old Maryland resident who had the bad luck to witness a street murder in Baltimore and the rare courage to agree to testify against the accused killer, Patrick Byers. According to prosecutors, Byers acquired a phone while awaiting trial in Baltimore's City Detention Center. He obtained Lackl's name, address, and phone number and allegedly texted that information to a friend on the outside, along with an offer of $2,500 to get rid of Lackl. On July 2, 2007, the friend rounded up a couple of thugs and drove out to Lackl's modest suburban home, where authorities say the crew blasted him to death with a .44 Magnum." https://www.wired.com/2009/05/ff-prisonphones/

"While authorities say Johnson is the first corrections officer in the U.S. harmed by a hit ordered from inmate’s cell phone, other people have been targets. In 2005, a New Jersey inmate serving time for shooting at two police officers used a smuggled phone to order a fatal attack on his girlfriend, who had given authorities information leading to his arrest." https://newsone.com/753345/prisoner-ordered-hit-outside-of-p...

There are more examples, but I think these illustrate that it's a very good idea to have control over inmate communications.

Re: Show HN: Ameelio.org – Free Prison Communication Platform

#50
There is already a similar service but it costs (very little) money called jmail.cc that I've been using that prints out letters and photos and mail them for you.

As an ex US federal prisoner (long story, teenager, petty financial hacking crime, extradited from a foreign country years ago) I am intimately aware of the terribad state of Jpay and corrlinks and all the other overpriced communciations methods for prisoners. What I do now is whenever I want to buy a new technical book I usually send it to a random prisoner not incarcerated for something heinous and do it with them via letters, it's good motivation because once a guy in jail for cheque kiting absolutely slayed a vector calculus book I was trying to do and I had to pick up the pace in order to keep up with him.

HN has their list of 'request for startups' and one of them is employ over 1 million ppl and I've always thought that the perfect situation for this is prisoners if you can somehow navigate the political arena to make it happen. There's just tons of people there willing to work and do anything to improve their situation, as long as you aren't Ikea maximum profiteering off convicts and help them as much as you help yourself everything should be cool.

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