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Re: Show HN: Stop Covid-19 by taking your temperature

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Post by Gibbon1 »

raphlinus wrote: post #40
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #24

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So what's going on with Florida?

Really good question. One hypothesis is that they're massively under-testing, but there's not a lot of data to support that. If you look at https://covidtracking.com/data/ for example, you see a positivity ratio of about 9% for FL, compared with 86% (!!!) for NJ, where it is really clear that the situation is dire but we're not seeing it because of lack of testing. The other one to watch is Michigan. There the "data…

I think Iceland pop 300,000 tested everyone. The result is 50% of the cases are asymptomatic. That's terrible in two ways, one is potentially it's spreading undetected. And two natural herd immunity comes at an enormous cost.

Re: Show HN: Stop Covid-19 by taking your temperature

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Post by dang »

Jamesbeam wrote: post #29
dang wrote: post #28

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Personal attacks will get you banned here. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the spirit of this site to heart, we'd be grateful.

It's not a personal attack if it's a factual truth. Nobody will ban me for that. Someone who suggests that the government promotes a website that is wanting to make unverified healthcare related data available to healthcare professionals during a global pandemic is stupid. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/stupid Showing poor judgment or little intelligence. In this case stupid = very poor judgement…

Personal attacks and "factual truth" are orthogonal, and we certainly will ban you for the former (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...) so please don't do it again. In practice, people underestimate how much of the former they're doing (by at least 10x) and overestimate how much of the latter they possess, so the distinction isn't generally useful.

It's easy to make your substantive points without declaring others to be stupid, so please do that instead.

Re: Show HN: Stop Covid-19 by taking your temperature

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Post by Jamesbeam »

dang wrote: post #44
Jamesbeam wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a personal attack if it's a factual truth. Nobody will ban me for that. Someone who suggests that the government promotes a website that is wanting to make unverified healthcare related data available to healthcare professionals during a global pandemic is stupid. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/stupid Showing poor judgment or little intelligence. In this case stupid = very poor judgement…

Personal attacks and "factual truth" are orthogonal, and we certainly will ban you for the former ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ) so please don't do it again. In practice, people underestimate how much of the former they're doing (by at least 10x) and overestimate how much of the latter they possess, so the distinction isn't generally useful. It's easy to make your substantive poin…

If you say you ban people for telling the truth I'll consider to not post on this platform and contribute in the future. Because we are getting close to censorship if you despite someone explaining himself threatening with banning them for a personal attack which it wasn't in this case and even the OP agrees to that if you follow the course of this discussion.

>It's easy to make your substantive points without declaring others to be stupid, so please do that instead.

I agree with you on that point, instead of calling someone else stupid for poor judgement I'll instead call their argument stupid or to not cause any friction "poor judgement" instead and explain why I think that to keep room for a discussion on the argument and not the author.

Thank you for your input.

Re: Show HN: Stop Covid-19 by taking your temperature

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Post by dang »

Jamesbeam wrote: post #45
dang wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personal attacks and "factual truth" are orthogonal, and we certainly will ban you for the former ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ) so please don't do it again. In practice, people underestimate how much of the former they're doing (by at least 10x) and overestimate how much of the latter they possess, so the distinction isn't generally useful. It's easy to make your substantive poin…

If you say you ban people for telling the truth I'll consider to not post on this platform and contribute in the future. Because we are getting close to censorship if you despite someone explaining himself threatening with banning them for a personal attack which it wasn't in this case and even the OP agrees to that if you follow the course of this discussion. >It's easy to make your substantive points without declar…

We don't ban people for telling the truth, we ban them for breaking the site guidelines. Fortunately, it's possible to tell the truth without breaking the site guidelines, so there need be no conflict.

Calling arguments stupid still breaks the site guidelines though. Would you mind reviewing them? I think it might help: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

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