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Re: Show HN: SaaS application boilerplate

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Big fan of BulletTrain - it's a big accelerant for building a SAAS (literally worth a couple of months of development time).

I saw them, read their blog (for inspirational purposes of course :) and even wrote them. But I believe it's really overpriced. I'm working on the paid modules/components but I will keep the price moderate.

Hey KRains, author of Bullet Train here! Congratulations on your launch and making the front page of HN! I know how great a feeling that is after all your hard work!

I disagree that Bullet Train is "really overpriced". The features it provides to customers can save them hundreds of hours of development time in total. There are individual features in Bullet Train (the teams functionality, the Stripe integration, outbound webhooks, scaffolding real-time chat conversation threads onto models and an inbox for all of them, Zapier integration, just to name a few) that would each save most development teams at least $1,450 in development costs, and that's before you take into account the power of Super Scaffolding for code generation.

Bullet Train will save most development teams months in effort right off the bat. That's well worth $1,450 to the customers who have been able to get to market faster with components they know are being used and maintained across many different products. Bullet Train is only two years old, and there are already folks running seven-figure businesses around products that cost five-figures to build using Bullet Train. I'm not trying to imply it's magic, I'm just trying to point out that there are situations where $1,450 can be a no-brainer.

I love that you're starting with an open source base. If I knew when I started what I now know after two years of selling Bullet Train, I would probably do something similar. But you will need (as I've needed and as others who are doing similar projects have needed) help along the way. (For example, you'll definitely want to get the support of a designer.) Unless you want to bring those people on as partners, that help will cost you money, sometimes lots of it, so make sure you're charging enough for your premium components to pay for the help you need to make the product a success and the best it can be.

Best of luck! Wishing you a lot of success!

Re: Show HN: SaaS application boilerplate

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This is great. Thank you so much!! One request is to include some recommended production deployment. I have spent way too much time on devops every time I start on my weekend project.

Thanks! You know, deployment automation is one of my highest priority tasks. I even wrote a book on it ( https://www.saasforge.dev/books/the-book-on-deployment ) but I think it would be much better to add some scripts/automation into the boilerplate.

thanks for the link. I long for the day where I can single click and have Flask/ReactJS boilerplate setup with functional public www and local dev environment setup. I only want to focus on business logic. Sorta like Heroku on steroid? (read: I would pay for that)

Re: Show HN: SaaS application boilerplate

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post #41
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw them, read their blog (for inspirational purposes of course :) and even wrote them. But I believe it's really overpriced. I'm working on the paid modules/components but I will keep the price moderate.

Hey KRains, author of Bullet Train here! Congratulations on your launch and making the front page of HN! I know how great a feeling that is after all your hard work! I disagree that Bullet Train is "really overpriced". The features it provides to customers can save them hundreds of hours of development time in total. There are individual features in Bullet Train (the teams functionality, the Stripe integration, outbo…

there's another guy on here saying $99 for Laravel Spark is pricey

Re: Show HN: SaaS application boilerplate

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I appreciate the efforts being done in this space, but I don't think this is launch ready yet. It doesn't include some of the things that make a SaaS a SaaS, and not a typical user sign up web app with admin panel. For a SaaS framework you usually need at least: integration with a billing provider (almost always Stripe nowadays), web hook handling for a bunch of services (or a generic way of handling webhooks easily)…

I agree, i'm working on my own SaaS boilerplate in laravel debating oss vs paid, might be a cheaper Nova/Spark combo alternative. $99 per project is pricy, esp when a lot of projects are just testing ideas and things. SaaS needs to have teams, projects, payments, auth, invites, and possibly be configurable for different 'types' of scenarios... projects could be optional for instance if they don't group actions by pro…

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience! Honestly, I don't know if teams and projects should be a part of SaaS. If so, in which context?

I wonder, how are you going to charge? Is your product is app or it's SaaS itself? And I think $9.99/month is very low price.

Any link to share? ;-)

Good luck!

Re: Show HN: SaaS application boilerplate

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Ha! This is awesome! I did something similar in 2016, and called it something silly like SaaS-in-Box, but after integrating security, and Blueprints and multi-tenancy and caching, and ... (I do think I ran into some problem with blueprints, actually), ... I finally decided I was inventing Django-on-Flask and that it probably didn't solve as many problems as I originally thought it would.

BUT! That said - I think there is a solution gap here. Keep it up!

Re: Show HN: SaaS application boilerplate

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw them, read their blog (for inspirational purposes of course :) and even wrote them. But I believe it's really overpriced. I'm working on the paid modules/components but I will keep the price moderate.

Hey KRains, author of Bullet Train here! Congratulations on your launch and making the front page of HN! I know how great a feeling that is after all your hard work! I disagree that Bullet Train is "really overpriced". The features it provides to customers can save them hundreds of hours of development time in total. There are individual features in Bullet Train (the teams functionality, the Stripe integration, outbo…

Hi Andrew!

Thanks for your great comment, really appreciate it!

You are right, I'm very excited on this experience! Even if it's not the first time when I publish my products here, I never had such level of attention.

Well, I'm looking right now from my personal point of view and your price looks "a little bit" high to me. I know I can do almost everything you already have in your project and maybe more, and if I would like to create my own SaaS right now, I wouldn't pay so much.

But if considers only corporate customers like established companies or well-funded startup, of course, your price is just nothing. The problem is I'm still looking for my niche, ideal customers etc. and I see this price is high for many of them.

My goal is to provide a democratic price that would be moderate for individuals and companies but would be different for them. I'm thinking to charge per seat as an individual can buy just one license and it will not be hard for him/her and companies would pay much more just because they would have more seats. But it's still plans (yet).

Thanks again for your advice and comment, good luck to you too!

Re: Show HN: SaaS application boilerplate

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey KRains, author of Bullet Train here! Congratulations on your launch and making the front page of HN! I know how great a feeling that is after all your hard work! I disagree that Bullet Train is "really overpriced". The features it provides to customers can save them hundreds of hours of development time in total. There are individual features in Bullet Train (the teams functionality, the Stripe integration, outbo…

there's another guy on here saying $99 for Laravel Spark is pricey

per project btw

Re: Show HN: SaaS application boilerplate

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! You know, deployment automation is one of my highest priority tasks. I even wrote a book on it ( https://www.saasforge.dev/books/the-book-on-deployment ) but I think it would be much better to add some scripts/automation into the boilerplate.

thanks for the link. I long for the day where I can single click and have Flask/ReactJS boilerplate setup with functional public www and local dev environment setup. I only want to focus on business logic. Sorta like Heroku on steroid? (read: I would pay for that)

Thanks for your idea! Btw I created a simple script that literally does the same - you just provide comments and it's sending to GitHub, rebuild the frontend and send command to deploy to AWS. But it's when I already set up everything. I'm thinking to automate much more - the WHOLE process of deployment, from the beginning, and actually, I already did it partially (you can find working snippets in the book). So, stay tuned to know when I implement it :)
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