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Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

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Post by ackfoo »

youngdynasty wrote: post #26
SCdF wrote: post #17

I have no idea what this product does. > Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac OK so like a URL to... what? Screenshare? Access the HDD like dropbox? Do something else? > Make changes in real time. Get feedback immediately. Effortless live previews. Of what? About what? Of what? > Nice cartoon picture of dog /closes tab Edit : reading the rest of the page it's still unclear what it does, or even why I'd want it.…

Thanks for the feedback! I was indeed trying to explain something technical (i.e. a tunneling service) in a non-technical way in an attempt to be friendly towards designers, but it seems like I still have some work to do on the product page.

I often hear people proudly say, “I’m not technical...” but this is an anachronism. We live in a technical world now. If you’re not technical, you’re a dinosaur and you might as well die off. There’s no point pandering to dinosaurs.

The way you wrote your product page and app description is fascinating not because it was so oblique as to be completely meaningless, but because you appear to have been so thoroughly unaware of that fact.

This is an extremely common problem with technical documentation. We find pages and pages of description of frameworks and libraries created without simply answering the fundamental question, “What does this do?” And those pages could be easily replaced with one brief annotated example.

Technical people are often unaware that they have created a desert of meaning and substance.

Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

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Post by youngdynasty »

choward wrote: post #15
tapland wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can the free trials be different lengths depending on what paid package you choose?

Good question. This obviously isn't well thought out. Why not just do the annual trial for 7 days? Would they seriously not let you sign up for monthly plan after because of that?

Thanks for your feedback... why not indeed? I've updated it within product page (and In-App Purchases). It'll probably take a little bit for the description in the App Store to update, though.

Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

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Post by wuliwong »

rwcorbett wrote: post #25
SCdF wrote: post #17

I have no idea what this product does. > Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac OK so like a URL to... what? Screenshare? Access the HDD like dropbox? Do something else? > Make changes in real time. Get feedback immediately. Effortless live previews. Of what? About what? Of what? > Nice cartoon picture of dog /closes tab Edit : reading the rest of the page it's still unclear what it does, or even why I'd want it.…

I had to look into the meta tags to get a better description: ` ` so I guess the target audience is developers who do not know how to configure a web server, setup proxies or other means of testing webhooks maybe? maybe there is a market for a product like this but obviously I would not be target audience either...

I work for a small company and do lots of work that would be nice to just share with my boss through a service like this versus having to deploy. I think it's more for a testbed than a replacement for actual web servers.

Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

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Post by wuliwong »

csomar wrote: post #4

Am I the only one bothered by these apps/saas that hide their pricing? >> No Subscription Required >> The core version of Emporter is free. >> >> Subscriptions are offered to provide faster speeds, custom URL names, multiple sessions, and super good vibes.

>Subscriptions are €5.99/month, or €4.99/month if choose a yearly subscription. Both are free to try for a week.

The pricing is not hidden. Just click "subscription" and there it is.

edit Looks like OP updated the product page. Sounds like you made a good suggestion then. :)

Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

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Post by [deleted] »

martin_a wrote: post #14
csomar wrote: post #4

Am I the only one bothered by these apps/saas that hide their pricing? >> No Subscription Required >> The core version of Emporter is free. >> >> Subscriptions are offered to provide faster speeds, custom URL names, multiple sessions, and super good vibes.

This totally sucks and I'm always choosing the service that will clearly show me what their service costs, even if it might be more expensive than the other. I have to deal with this "contact us and we will make you an offer"-thing everyday at work. It's stupid. Either your product costs a fixed amount per GB/user/whatever or you are trying to screw me over the price.

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Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

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Post by [deleted] »

wuliwong wrote: post #44
csomar wrote: post #4

Am I the only one bothered by these apps/saas that hide their pricing? >> No Subscription Required >> The core version of Emporter is free. >> >> Subscriptions are offered to provide faster speeds, custom URL names, multiple sessions, and super good vibes.

>Subscriptions are €5.99/month , or €4.99/month if choose a yearly subscription. Both are free to try for a week. The pricing is not hidden. Just click "subscription" and there it is. edit Looks like OP updated the product page. Sounds like you made a good suggestion then. :)

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Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

#47

Post by kypro »

wuliwong wrote: post #43
rwcorbett wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to look into the meta tags to get a better description: ` ` so I guess the target audience is developers who do not know how to configure a web server, setup proxies or other means of testing webhooks maybe? maybe there is a market for a product like this but obviously I would not be target audience either...

I work for a small company and do lots of work that would be nice to just share with my boss through a service like this versus having to deploy. I think it's more for a testbed than a replacement for actual web servers.

Check out ngrok. It's absolutely brilliant for what you're describing.

Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

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Post by mikestew »

youngdynasty wrote: post #40
mikestew wrote: post #31

The hidden pricing is a tab-closer for me. I’m just not going to play that game when it is not even clear what the app does.

Thanks for your feedback! I can definitely see why that's a deal breaker. Admittedly, I just thought people would be stoked that it was free to use and download it.

But here's the thing: if I really like it, and you have any business sense whatsoever, then I'm going to want a subscription. But if I don't know up front what that subscription is going to cost, then I'm not going to bother to download an app, figure out how it works, get really into it, and then find out that the functionality I'm going to want long-term is $895/year.

It also makes me think you're not telling me for a reason. I guess I've purchased too much "enterprise" software over the years. :-)

Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

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Post by wuliwong »

kypro wrote: post #47
wuliwong wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work for a small company and do lots of work that would be nice to just share with my boss through a service like this versus having to deploy. I think it's more for a testbed than a replacement for actual web servers.

Check out ngrok. It's absolutely brilliant for what you're describing.

I remember doing it before from my macbook. I'm not sure if that's a feature or not in os x anymore?

Re: Show HN: Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac

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Post by mattsfrey »

youngdynasty wrote: post #26
SCdF wrote: post #17

I have no idea what this product does. > Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac OK so like a URL to... what? Screenshare? Access the HDD like dropbox? Do something else? > Make changes in real time. Get feedback immediately. Effortless live previews. Of what? About what? Of what? > Nice cartoon picture of dog /closes tab Edit : reading the rest of the page it's still unclear what it does, or even why I'd want it.…

Thanks for the feedback! I was indeed trying to explain something technical (i.e. a tunneling service) in a non-technical way in an attempt to be friendly towards designers, but it seems like I still have some work to do on the product page.

I guessed what it did before even clicking the link, I would take this clap trap with a grain of salt - EDIT should note I actually use ngrok a lot for this so it clicked to me immediately - oh, ngrok with an app ui. I installed it as well. Long story short, your target audience will know what's up.
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