Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

github.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 89 posts

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

#41

Post by mintplant »

mmilano wrote: post #37
robotrout wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The oathkeepers are not an "extremist group". I would humbly suggest that splcenter.org is wrong in this instance. https://oathkeepers.org/about/

If we were living in the colonial days, only the British would be calling them "radical" or "extremists". :D Men of authority pledging not to bow to unconstitutional orders against citizens. Actually seems noble. I suspect they get the "radical" and "extremist" label from our culture where those who aren't on the "correct" political side are labeled a Nazi or Communist.

It's more the rampant racism, conspiracy theorism, and calls to violence. Ironically their leadership engages in both of the labeling behaviors of which you complain. This is all documented in the link SauciestGNU provided.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

#42

Post by robotrout »

mintplant wrote: post #34
robotrout wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation needed. The racist part is pretty amusing as 5 minutes watching interviews with black oath keepers would make obvious.

SauciestGNU already provided one, full of direct quotes from their leadership.

I read the southern poverty law center's summary of why they dislike the oath keepers. The cases they touch upon in very one-sided ways, the Bundy ranch, the Malheur Standoff, the Oregon miners, are all cases well known to me, where the oath keepers acted commendably. I invite you to read about those events in more detail, from other sources.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

#43

Post by youdontknowtho »

11011011011 wrote: post #40
ibuildoss wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is extremely important to be sensitive to extremism of any kind, condemn extremist practices, beliefs, and views and take a stance against extremist ideologies. We do not share nor endorse extremist views nor "values", nor have anything to do with extremist groups whatsoever. We have not heard about them (Oath Keepers) before. We'll discuss a name change internally & with the community. ps: It also shares the name…

When they say "extremist" they mean "white people", goys.

The Oath Keepers are more extreme than nearly all other white people. Just a fact. Read up on them and I think you will agree.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

#45

Post by robotrout »

mintplant wrote: post #41
mmilano wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we were living in the colonial days, only the British would be calling them "radical" or "extremists". :D Men of authority pledging not to bow to unconstitutional orders against citizens. Actually seems noble. I suspect they get the "radical" and "extremist" label from our culture where those who aren't on the "correct" political side are labeled a Nazi or Communist.

It's more the rampant racism, conspiracy theorism, and calls to violence. Ironically their leadership engages in both of the labeling behaviors of which you complain. This is all documented in the link SauciestGNU provided.

There are only 2577 words on that page you linked, and most of them talk about the oathkeepers protecting businesses in Fergusson, the oathkeepers forming a buffer around the Malheur protestors in Oregon, and the oathkeepers responding to the Bundy and Oregon gold miner situations.

You did not read your own link, or you are putting all your eggs on the "McCain is a traitor" quote, which since McCain is a republican, you should love, and the Hilary rant about house to house confiscation of guns, which she has never outright advocated publicly, but has strongly suggested in speeches. That quote may be a bit paranoid, which is why it was selected from thousands of quotes to be included on that web page.

EDIT: Sorry, but there are a pretty small universe of reasons for your dislike on the page linked. I listed them. That's not mind-reading, that's just deduction.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

#46

Post by 11011011011 »

youdontknowtho wrote: post #43
11011011011 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they say "extremist" they mean "white people", goys.

The Oath Keepers are more extreme than nearly all other white people. Just a fact. Read up on them and I think you will agree.

They literally are just a bunch of ex-cops and military who want to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The fact that this seems so threatening to some says more about them than the Oath Keepers.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

#47

Post by [deleted] »

robotrout wrote: post #45
mintplant wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's more the rampant racism, conspiracy theorism, and calls to violence. Ironically their leadership engages in both of the labeling behaviors of which you complain. This is all documented in the link SauciestGNU provided.

There are only 2577 words on that page you linked, and most of them talk about the oathkeepers protecting businesses in Fergusson, the oathkeepers forming a buffer around the Malheur protestors in Oregon, and the oathkeepers responding to the Bundy and Oregon gold miner situations. You did not read your own link, or you are putting all your eggs on the "McCain is a traitor" quote, which since McCain is a republican,…

[deleted]

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

#48

Post by jcims »

ibuildoss wrote: post #20
SauciestGNU wrote: post #18

Are you aware that this project shares a name with an extremist group[0]? I'm not sure how concerned you are about that, especially if you're not American, but I'd want to know if it were one of my projects. [0] https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...

It is extremely important to be sensitive to extremism of any kind, condemn extremist practices, beliefs, and views and take a stance against extremist ideologies. We do not share nor endorse extremist views nor "values", nor have anything to do with extremist groups whatsoever. We have not heard about them (Oath Keepers) before. We'll discuss a name change internally & with the community. ps: It also shares the name…

This is a really unfortunate tangent and not worthy of any time or trouble on your end IMHO. At the very most a footnote somewhere in the site to say that this project is not affiliated with any groups or organizations would be more than adequate.

Any individuals that try to imply that the naming of a proxy server product within a larger software ecosystem indicate an endorsement of the position of an organization with a similar name are displaying pathological behavior and should generally be disregarded.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

#49

Post by mintplant »

robotrout wrote: post #45
mintplant wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's more the rampant racism, conspiracy theorism, and calls to violence. Ironically their leadership engages in both of the labeling behaviors of which you complain. This is all documented in the link SauciestGNU provided.

There are only 2577 words on that page you linked, and most of them talk about the oathkeepers protecting businesses in Fergusson, the oathkeepers forming a buffer around the Malheur protestors in Oregon, and the oathkeepers responding to the Bundy and Oregon gold miner situations. You did not read your own link, or you are putting all your eggs on the "McCain is a traitor" quote, which since McCain is a republican,…

Please don't presume to read my mind.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

#50

Post by bitwize »

ibuildoss wrote: post #20
SauciestGNU wrote: post #18

Are you aware that this project shares a name with an extremist group[0]? I'm not sure how concerned you are about that, especially if you're not American, but I'd want to know if it were one of my projects. [0] https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...

It is extremely important to be sensitive to extremism of any kind, condemn extremist practices, beliefs, and views and take a stance against extremist ideologies. We do not share nor endorse extremist views nor "values", nor have anything to do with extremist groups whatsoever. We have not heard about them (Oath Keepers) before. We'll discuss a name change internally & with the community. ps: It also shares the name…

I thought it was a reference to the keyblade from Kingdom Hearts, and was awaiting the distributed cloud-based keystore called "Oblivion". :)
Post reply on HN