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Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

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Here's my idea for an AI-based speed dating site/app. You fill in the basics (about you and your preferences), plus 5 things that are important to you in life, plus 1-2 things you want to absolutely avoid (ex, smokers), your availability and that's it. In the background, the AI matches you and sets you up for a quick coffee date at a location that's not far from either person. Twist: every single person actively look…

That leaves you essentially only dating people who are within ~10 minutes of you at some point. Anything more would be a big time sacrifice- a 5 minute coffee turns into 15 minutes with a 5 minute commute. If that person ghosts (as online daters will know happens ALL THE TIME) or is suddenly unavailable, or 5 minutes late or whatever, you're wasting extra time on someone you've never met and might never met. As an ex…

Agree, there will be some issues with what I'm proposing, but I'm mostly looking at it from an in-app time sink perspective. I'd like to remove any frustrations associated with using dating apps. If someone ghosts IRL, then that factors into the AI/ML as time goes on (maybe they can only go on 2 coffee dates per month for the next 3 months as penalty).

Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

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The problem with dating isn't lack of meeting people, it's lack of heuristics. Speed dating just makes it faster to judge, but it doesn't actually do any work for you. One of the big benefits to OkCupid is that the heuristics are relatively good. Improve on that, and you're golden.

one of the problems with good heuristics is that almost all the desire is sent towards the 9's and 10's. Yet obviously most of the site users are 8 or less. So the 9-10s gets swamped, and leave early. The remaining users gets bored because nobody replies. The problem here is not that heuristics of finding "your best match" is bad. It is quite easy to figure out who is attractive and matches you. The problem is that m…

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Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

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I really like this concept OP. I think your biggest non-technical hurdle is going to be dealing with the classic issue of there simply being significantly less women than men. I'm curious to know how you plan to approach that after you introduce a proper business model.

I'd focus heavily on hotdog detection, lewd language detection, and other ways of terminating calls (and banning users) that break a code of conduct in the calls.

Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's my idea for an AI-based speed dating site/app. You fill in the basics (about you and your preferences), plus 5 things that are important to you in life, plus 1-2 things you want to absolutely avoid (ex, smokers), your availability and that's it. In the background, the AI matches you and sets you up for a quick coffee date at a location that's not far from either person. Twist: every single person actively look…

That leaves you essentially only dating people who are within ~10 minutes of you at some point. Anything more would be a big time sacrifice- a 5 minute coffee turns into 15 minutes with a 5 minute commute. If that person ghosts (as online daters will know happens ALL THE TIME) or is suddenly unavailable, or 5 minutes late or whatever, you're wasting extra time on someone you've never met and might never met. As an ex…

If that person ghosts

To get around the ghosting problem you could use GPS to see if the person is actually where they're supposed to be for the speed date. Essentially, people would get a notification when >x people are available in the area and they could go to a coffee shop and flip a toggle which instructs the app to start sending people to speed date them. If they leave the coffee shop or turn off their phone or anything else then the app would toggle off their availability and stop sending dates.

It could be similar to the way Uber manages driver availability in an area. Except instead of sending you fares, it sends dates.

The beauty of a system like this is that you could go to a coffee shop and read or do work on your laptop and toggle on your availability. If people don't show up to date you it doesn't matter because you're not wasting time anyway.

Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

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The point of speed dating is to meet a lot of people quickly in the hope that you'll find someone who has chemistry with you. It's about personality, not sex.

Here's my idea for an AI-based speed dating site/app. You fill in the basics (about you and your preferences), plus 5 things that are important to you in life, plus 1-2 things you want to absolutely avoid (ex, smokers), your availability and that's it. In the background, the AI matches you and sets you up for a quick coffee date at a location that's not far from either person. Twist: every single person actively look…

Careful, this is sounding a little eugenic with the "must be on the site". There is no possible way to implement this without some authoritarian regime making it so. I get the impression that this idea if rather coercive.

Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That leaves you essentially only dating people who are within ~10 minutes of you at some point. Anything more would be a big time sacrifice- a 5 minute coffee turns into 15 minutes with a 5 minute commute. If that person ghosts (as online daters will know happens ALL THE TIME) or is suddenly unavailable, or 5 minutes late or whatever, you're wasting extra time on someone you've never met and might never met. As an ex…

Agree, there will be some issues with what I'm proposing, but I'm mostly looking at it from an in-app time sink perspective. I'd like to remove any frustrations associated with using dating apps. If someone ghosts IRL, then that factors into the AI/ML as time goes on (maybe they can only go on 2 coffee dates per month for the next 3 months as penalty).

People have the right to change their mind about dating some random stranger. No reason to punish them for it. Its a fact of human nature, and we have freedoms. Best not to curtail this.

Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

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The problem with dating isn't lack of meeting people, it's lack of heuristics. Speed dating just makes it faster to judge, but it doesn't actually do any work for you. One of the big benefits to OkCupid is that the heuristics are relatively good. Improve on that, and you're golden.

one of the problems with good heuristics is that almost all the desire is sent towards the 9's and 10's. Yet obviously most of the site users are 8 or less. So the 9-10s gets swamped, and leave early. The remaining users gets bored because nobody replies. The problem here is not that heuristics of finding "your best match" is bad. It is quite easy to figure out who is attractive and matches you. The problem is that m…

Does anyone know of any other analysis of the dynamics of online dating sites besides the OKCupid ones?

Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That leaves you essentially only dating people who are within ~10 minutes of you at some point. Anything more would be a big time sacrifice- a 5 minute coffee turns into 15 minutes with a 5 minute commute. If that person ghosts (as online daters will know happens ALL THE TIME) or is suddenly unavailable, or 5 minutes late or whatever, you're wasting extra time on someone you've never met and might never met. As an ex…

If that person ghosts To get around the ghosting problem you could use GPS to see if the person is actually where they're supposed to be for the speed date. Essentially, people would get a notification when >x people are available in the area and they could go to a coffee shop and flip a toggle which instructs the app to start sending people to speed date them. If they leave the coffee shop or turn off their phone or…

Nice pivot.

I'm imagining a toggle to alter your visibility too, between showing your general location within a venue, to something more playful (I'm wearing a green shirt, when there are two others in the room with green shirts), or even just 100% visible (here's my picture, I'm sitting exactly here).

Though, I'm now reminded of two r/dataisbeautiful posts [1,2], where - despite both having faulty graphs - the OP shows how s/he got the most dates when the women messaged first. Meaning, this imaginary app we're discussing might have a ton of guys bombarding female users, if it weren't for the AI being involved, as it will be the one matching nearby suitors for you. A search of 'dating' in the subreddit shows a lot more results.

1 - https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/7oqygb/my_...

2 - https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/7p73ch/my_...

Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's my idea for an AI-based speed dating site/app. You fill in the basics (about you and your preferences), plus 5 things that are important to you in life, plus 1-2 things you want to absolutely avoid (ex, smokers), your availability and that's it. In the background, the AI matches you and sets you up for a quick coffee date at a location that's not far from either person. Twist: every single person actively look…

Careful, this is sounding a little eugenic with the "must be on the site". There is no possible way to implement this without some authoritarian regime making it so. I get the impression that this idea if rather coercive.

The app idea isn't related to improving the genetic quality of a human population, but it does solve for the chicken & egg marketplace problem. Having everyone who's 'single and looking' on it could be solved by its mere popularity (ex. Facebook).

Re: Show HN: Early version of a Speed Dating Community

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Careful, this is sounding a little eugenic with the "must be on the site". There is no possible way to implement this without some authoritarian regime making it so. I get the impression that this idea if rather coercive.

The app idea isn't related to improving the genetic quality of a human population, but it does solve for the chicken & egg marketplace problem. Having everyone who's 'single and looking' on it could be solved by its mere popularity (ex. Facebook).

Right. My point is that it would be trivial to pivot to eugenics. States like Singapore have been accused of eugenics by running State Dating agencies.
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