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Re: Show HN: Shiori – Simple self hosted bookmarks manager

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Post by always_good » Thu, Mar 01, 2018, 7:12 PM UTC

overcast wrote: post #39

roadbeats wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is where people working on similar ideas can get together and chat, right ?

Let's cut through the nonsense here, you're advertising your product in someone else's post, and successfully became the top comment in doing so. Thus diverting any other discussion on the authors work, to only yours. I'm all for good discussions, that's why HN is my only forum I participate in, but doing this, in my opinion, sucks.

Yeah, now all the top top-level comments are plugs. This is ridiculous.

Someone else's Show HN should not be an avenue for marketing your project, plain and simple. Maybe people will start organically talking/comparing to a competitor, but even that is different from the ol "hey everyone, here's my alternative!" which is just sheepish.

Time to leave the theater so other people can enjoy the show.

Re: Show HN: Shiori – Simple self hosted bookmarks manager

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Post by solarkraft » Thu, Mar 01, 2018, 9:58 PM UTC

overcast wrote: post #25

HighlandSpring wrote: post #23

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I think the opposite - until an hour ago I wasn't aware this category of software even existed. As soon as I learned of it, first thing I wanted to know is what else is out there that solves the same problem and how they compare. Some projects help you with this by featuring a quick rundown of similar software on their website/repository readme along with links to the repositories. I always appreciate that.

Then create a separate Show HN for it? There's no reason to mention your competing product in someones thread, other than to advertise for it.

It's on the same topic. You can do a comparison and the creators could even discuss challenges and different approaches. And users get the best overview. I thought that was the point of this site.

Re: Show HN: Shiori – Simple self hosted bookmarks manager

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Post by solarkraft » Thu, Mar 01, 2018, 10:03 PM UTC

always_good wrote: post #41

overcast wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's cut through the nonsense here, you're advertising your product in someone else's post, and successfully became the top comment in doing so. Thus diverting any other discussion on the authors work, to only yours. I'm all for good discussions, that's why HN is my only forum I participate in, but doing this, in my opinion, sucks.

Yeah, now all the top top-level comments are plugs. This is ridiculous. Someone else's Show HN should not be an avenue for marketing your project, plain and simple. Maybe people will start organically talking/comparing to a competitor, but even that is different from the ol "hey everyone, here's my alternative!" which is just sheepish. Time to leave the theater so other people can enjoy the show.

My main annoyance about this is that we're now discussing about the mentioning of another product instead of the other product itself.

Re: Show HN: Shiori – Simple self hosted bookmarks manager

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 01, 2018, 10:17 PM UTC

geekit wrote: post #35

notheguyouthink wrote: post #13

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> Wish I knew Go tools to use it. What do you mean?

I meant I don't have any experience with Go setup, tools and stuff since it is made with Go.

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Re: Show HN: Shiori – Simple self hosted bookmarks manager

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Post by solarkraft » Thu, Mar 01, 2018, 10:18 PM UTC

geekit wrote: post #35

notheguyouthink wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wish I knew Go tools to use it. What do you mean?

I meant I don't have any experience with Go setup, tools and stuff since it is made with Go.

go get github.com/RadhiFadlillah/go-readability

Re: Show HN: Shiori – Simple self hosted bookmarks manager

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Post by roadbeats » Fri, Mar 02, 2018, 1:56 AM UTC

overcast wrote: post #39

roadbeats wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is where people working on similar ideas can get together and chat, right ?

Let's cut through the nonsense here, you're advertising your product in someone else's post, and successfully became the top comment in doing so. Thus diverting any other discussion on the authors work, to only yours. I'm all for good discussions, that's why HN is my only forum I participate in, but doing this, in my opinion, sucks.

I think you are in wrong website. This is where people build and share with eachother. I shared links of two open source projects that can help this product, too. Obviously you are not an active contributor to the community, so you take see it differently.

Re: Show HN: Shiori – Simple self hosted bookmarks manager

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Post by resurge » Fri, Mar 02, 2018, 1:44 PM UTC

bluehatbrit wrote: post #30

notheguyouthink wrote: post #14

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Your https fails for me, just fyi. (error pops up saying the connection is not private)

We've fixed this now, thanks for letting us know!

https://www.gurn.io/ works but https://gurn.io/ still gives me an error.

> gurn.io uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www.gurn.io Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN

Re: Show HN: Shiori – Simple self hosted bookmarks manager

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Post by notheguyouthink » Fri, Mar 02, 2018, 2:46 PM UTC

geekit wrote: post #35

notheguyouthink wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wish I knew Go tools to use it. What do you mean?

I meant I don't have any experience with Go setup, tools and stuff since it is made with Go.

Well with Go, you don't need them if all you want is to run the project. Go produces binaries, so you just download the binary from somewhere - No Go needed. In this case, iirc he was releasing binaries on the GitHub page.

You only need Go if you're wanting to develop on the project, or if the developer never released binaries.