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Re: Show HN: Key Values – Find engineering teams that share your values

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Post by shimon »

lynnetye wrote: post #28
ryanschneider wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very nice site! I was surprised that selecting multiple values to filter by resulted in an "OR" query rather than an "AND" one. Is that just because there isn't a lot of content yet? Also, some sort of structured data about company locations would be great, especially as the data set grows in size. Even if you don't display it yet, probably worth while to collect it now if you're not already so it can be added easily…

Thanks, and you're exactly right about both of those things. It'll make more sense to use AND once I add more profiles! (It's a pretty sad experience using AND at this point haha) Re: locations, I'm w/ you! I was focusing on Bay Area teams to start but then companies in other cities started reaching out! I couldn't possibly exclude them :)

In addition to location, you'll also want to filter on:

- company size

- years experience desired

- compensation offered (one of the things that makes AngelList jobs and the monthly HN jobs post so effective is that it's the norm to include comp info)

- tech stack (to know if I have relevant experience to get in the door / if I want to use those tools)

- roles (you should put into standard buckets like AngelList does)

Re: Show HN: Key Values – Find engineering teams that share your values

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Post by mbesto »

lynnetye wrote: post #6
the_arun wrote: post #2

Interesting.. How do you get these key-values from companies?

Teams self-select their values! I've worked closely with each team and they write their own profiles.

Wouldn't every company say they just do everything? I mean, heck, I would...

Re: Show HN: Key Values – Find engineering teams that share your values

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Post by mayneack »

Lxr wrote: post #13
daxorid wrote: post #9

Seems like this list of "values" takes one side exclusively, without offering a counter-option. I would like to see an IQ > EQ option, for example.

This is relevant because otherwise companies can just claim they have all of the above.

about 26 do https://i.imgur.com/QQqVyQX.png

Re: Show HN: Key Values – Find engineering teams that share your values

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Post by notyourday »

prawn wrote: post #43
rhodysurf wrote: post #30

Its a little ironic that monetary compensation isnt on the list

Aren't there enough job sites out there focusing on exactly that? This looks to be someone trying to differentiate.

The reason why it is called a job and not a hobby is because those who do it expect money. The elephant in a room is money, not a company outing or 50 hour weeks.

Re: Show HN: Key Values – Find engineering teams that share your values

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Post by arjie »

mayneack wrote: post #45
Lxr wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is relevant because otherwise companies can just claim they have all of the above.

about 26 do https://i.imgur.com/QQqVyQX.png

Each employer gets to pick precisely 8 so without looking at your picture I can say that you're wrong.

Re: Show HN: Key Values – Find engineering teams that share your values

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Post by slavapestov »

alexryan wrote: post #40
lynnetye wrote: post #7

Hello! Lynne here, the creator of Key Values. I’m an indie hacker, and I've spent the last few months putting this together. I interviewed dozens of engineers to come up with a list of values: things we care about most when evaluating new opportunities. I then worked with engineering teams (which you see listed on Key Values) to identify the 8 values that best describe their engineering team and culture. I’m working…

This is a really great idea. Please consider adding value ranking. For example, many people might value both meritocracy and diversity but valuing one more highly than another creates a completely different culture. P.S. Please consider adding "meritocracy" as a value.

You can't really have one without the other. It's not really meritocracy if you're excluding a large portion of your candidate pool due to bias.

Re: Show HN: Key Values – Find engineering teams that share your values

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Post by shimon »

mayneack wrote: post #45
Lxr wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is relevant because otherwise companies can just claim they have all of the above.

about 26 do https://i.imgur.com/QQqVyQX.png

As noted elsewhere in this thread, the filters are ORs not ANDs. There are 26 total companies on the site right now.

Re: Show HN: Key Values – Find engineering teams that share your values

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Post by arjie »

Practically all the advice here is rubbish in my opinion. As a user, allow me to request the following:

* Please do not attempt to make it an objective rating of values

* Please do not make it so I must rank values

* Please do not auto-disallow values based on your interpretation of them (like this 8 PM going-home being incompatible with work/life)

* Please do not list which frameworks they use and whatnot

I like this site because it's simple. When I select a set of values, I get a few matches. I'm not left wondering if I missed out on companies because somewhere in the list of 1024 values there was one I didn't select. And I like that you let teams choose what they think is most important and had a maximum number of values they could select.

Great work.

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