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In a similar vein: www.lyricstraining.com

Watch YouTube videos in whatever language you're learning and fill in missing words. No connection to it...Just discovered it a few weeks ago and it's super fun and addictive: you get to hear lots of new music and learn some serious comprehension.

Re: Show HN: Clozemaster – Learn language in context

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I am a regular Duolingo learner but I have yet to see how this is better in a significant way (I am not trying to be a dick but just giving honest opinion - sorry :( ). Or maybe I just missed something. I played around with your product and I've found that I need to enter words or select missing ones like in Duolingo. It seems a bit more difficult than Duolingo though. The biggest problem to me with Duolingo that it…

I finished the Duolingo French tree. I now use Clozemaster for French ( and a number of other languages ) and find that it is a very efficient and entertaining way of studying French in context. I can now slowly and not too painfully, read some easy authentic French material, including parts of Le Monde and the French version of ZDNet. I have of course, used a bunch of other resources, including the excellent Assimil.

Re: Show HN: Clozemaster – Learn language in context

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I am a regular Duolingo learner but I have yet to see how this is better in a significant way (I am not trying to be a dick but just giving honest opinion - sorry :( ). Or maybe I just missed something. I played around with your product and I've found that I need to enter words or select missing ones like in Duolingo. It seems a bit more difficult than Duolingo though. The biggest problem to me with Duolingo that it…

I finished the Duolingo French tree. I now use Clozemaster for French ( and a number of other languages ) and find that it is a very efficient and entertaining way of studying French in context. I can now slowly and not too painfully, read some easy authentic French material, including parts of Le Monde and the French version of ZDNet. I have of course, used a bunch of other resources, including the excellent Assimil…

Le Monde, mais Die Welt. :)

(Right?)

Re: Show HN: Clozemaster – Learn language in context

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I finished the Duolingo French tree. I now use Clozemaster for French ( and a number of other languages ) and find that it is a very efficient and entertaining way of studying French in context. I can now slowly and not too painfully, read some easy authentic French material, including parts of Le Monde and the French version of ZDNet. I have of course, used a bunch of other resources, including the excellent Assimil…

Le Monde, mais Die Welt. :) (Right?)

You are right, it is "Le Monde" and not "La Monde" as I originally wrote.

As you can see, the materials I have used ( Clozemaster and Assimil ) are not too grammar heavy. :-)

Re: Show HN: Clozemaster – Learn language in context

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Hi Hacker News! My name's Mike. I'm the creator of Clozemaster. Clozemaster is language learning through mass exposure to vocabulary in context. The goal is to fill in the missing word in a given sentence. The missing word is the most difficult word in the sentence according a frequency list for that language, and the sentences are from the awesome dataset at Tatoeba. I started the site just under a year ago to answe…

The multiple choice mode is missing a button for "i don't know". I figured out you can hit enter to get the same, but i don't think everyone would. E: Gave it a bit more of a try, and i won't be switching this one. The japanese set doesn't seem to particularly try to avoid throwing unknown words at me when giving me new ones and the voice is uncomfortably high-pitched.

Yeah I'm doing the Japanese one now and it has a lot of unfamiliar kanji in it even on the lowest level. I never really learned much kanji.

Re: Show HN: Clozemaster – Learn language in context

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Hi Hacker News! My name's Mike. I'm the creator of Clozemaster. Clozemaster is language learning through mass exposure to vocabulary in context. The goal is to fill in the missing word in a given sentence. The missing word is the most difficult word in the sentence according a frequency list for that language, and the sentences are from the awesome dataset at Tatoeba. I started the site just under a year ago to answe…

I noticed something weird when doing Japanese. When you answer a question, it says the correct sentence out loud in one voice, but sometimes the voice says something different than what is written. Then when I click the play button, it says the sentence correctly but in a totally different voice.

At first I thought I was just crazy, but this has happened at least 3 times in 3 "rounds" so far.

Re: Show HN: Clozemaster – Learn language in context

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I am a regular Duolingo learner but I have yet to see how this is better in a significant way (I am not trying to be a dick but just giving honest opinion - sorry :( ). Or maybe I just missed something. I played around with your product and I've found that I need to enter words or select missing ones like in Duolingo. It seems a bit more difficult than Duolingo though. The biggest problem to me with Duolingo that it…

Your problem learning German probably stems from "Deutsche Methode", i.e. throwing you without any preparation into talking in a strange language without explaining anything, not even meaning of words very often. For some reason this is extremely popular and distinguished method in Germany, maybe stemming from German masochism formulated in "if it doesn't hurt, it doesn't count", which you see around here everywhere.…

Well, there's also another thing: according to empirical research, "explaining things" about language doesn't make you better at that language. The part of your brain that handles language is simply incompatible with that kind of input data. (The input data that makes your brain better at language is comprehensible linguistic input embedded in communicative context. That is, language that is trying to communicate meaning to you, and is simple enough for you to get the rough understanding of that meaning.)

Not that it hurts, though.

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