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Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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There's little risk of depending on external services if you use multiple that provide the same type of service hidden behind an abstraction layer and can remove one of the vendors from the mix with the press of a key.

That mitigates the risk of depending on services, but it introduces a huge new risk by committing development time to a feature that provides no value to the user and potentially, if the providers last, no value to the business either. Any startup founder who follows this strategy is concentrating on the wrong thing. Pick the provider who's most likely to last and build against their service. That way you are more li…

You're conflating "using an external product" with "using an external service". The third option is self-hosting a third-party product, which gives you the best of both worlds (reduced development cost and time, reduced risk due to continued reliance on third party).

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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Hi! that's awesome! I started to play with it .

I was wondering if there is any way to have predefined stories? I'm sure there is already a bunch of "weather" stories or "how are you" stories that must come over and over. I don't want to spend much time on it

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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hey ar7hur - excited about the release. i've seen/heard that wit.ai likes to use clojure (lisp for AI programming? of course!). was clojure used to power Bot Engine? if so, how did your team like the experience?

I was walking through the tutorial - noticed a bad hyperlink at the bottom of the page ( https://wit.ai/docs/quickstart ) "recipes" (s/" https://wit.ai/recipes/"/"https://wit.ai/docs/recipes" )

Thanks for reporting. Will be fixed soon

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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Isn't microsoft's luis.ai providing a very similar kind of service?

I believe we share the same goal: make it easy to build smart bots. This is a very hard problem, all of us are far from solving it. It's good that different approaches are tried.

I didn't mean to imply your service isn't valuable or original. Just remarking on the OP's assertion that wit.ai would be hard to migrate away from.

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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I was walking through the tutorial - noticed a bad hyperlink at the bottom of the page ( https://wit.ai/docs/quickstart ) "recipes" (s/" https://wit.ai/recipes/"/"https://wit.ai/docs/recipes" )

Thanks for reporting. Will be fixed soon

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Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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So far my experience have been terrible. Worse experience than the previous version. It is difficult to understand how stories work. It doesn't fit well with the Facebook messenger platform.

Lacks documentation and examples. There is no support for story branching, conditional flows, or intents.

What is Merge supposed to do.. How is it possible for my server code to know what to merge the entity into context, without knowing the intent.

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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> X as a service allows you to get X with a lot less efforts. I think it's more accurate to say that it allows you to borrow X. It's very true that it helps to bootstrap your own product and eventually if things work out you can bring X in-house. My worry about everything-as-a-service is that until that point, each different service that you use is an another vulnerability to your product. This goes double for specia…

There's little risk of depending on external services if you use multiple that provide the same type of service hidden behind an abstraction layer and can remove one of the vendors from the mix with the press of a key.

But that seems very difficult when the service provided is a black box of artificial intelligence.
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