I wonder how much money Apple would make by releasing an Android app that for $1 a month, would allow Android users the ability to have a "blue bubble" or whatever.
Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android
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That seems like a problem. Emulating the protocol is okayish-to-gray but having the binary there will just be a straight DMCA. Wonder what the actual app is doing since this is just the PoC.
I hope we get to a place where people like this simply generate an OpenPGP key/OpenSSL certificate for a pseudonym and just throw this stuff up on .onion and .i2p domains. A place where DMCA and copyright literally cannot be enforced because it's impossible to.
Not sure how likely is that considering that Beeper is an actual/company startup which seems to have received funding from YC?
However, considering that I'd except they'd know better than to just outright take a binary from MacOS and use it in their app (assuming that's actually the case..).
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#393Subscribed! I'm guessing that nothing needs to be done to let my friends know? It just works?
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#394If this really works, it is what Nothing's partnership with Sunbird claimed to do (and lied about) a couple weeks ago - before being called out and shut down https://texts.blog/2023/11/18/sunbird-security/
I’m one of the authors of the blog post you linked — Beeper Mini is entirely different.
There is a great blog post by JJTech (author of the pypush library, tech Beeper Mini is based on) also on the front page right now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38532167
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#395This seems like it won't last, but it's AWESOME and I really hope you survive Apple's inevitable attempts to kill this. A universal chat application would be amazing, and will maybe help bring attention to the value of standards and interoperability (hopefully by governments/regulators).
On the contrary, the EU law that enforces interoperability should put some wind under this project's wings.
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#396As Android user, this seems useless to me. What do I get by switching over to this "blue bubble" platform? RCS messaging is pretty good and has most of these advertised features already.
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I'm genuinely curious. What's in it for Android users? I don't think the real answer is clout & social standing, but who knows.
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And if Beeper keeps it up they’re likely running afoul of the CFAA in the US. The EU doesn’t rule the world. They haven’t forced iMessage open yet, and Apple is clearly trying to avoid it with their announced RCS support. I don’t think things are as far along as you do.
Probably because no one uses iMessage in the EU.
I'm pretty sure almost everyone sending messages from an iPhone to another is using it.
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#398This is a wonderful project. It highlights how silly Apple is. For those defending the existence of green bubbles, why don’t we swap blue with green then? Would you be okay with all your iMessages in that ugly green while your SMSes with Android friends are in calming blue? I am typing this on an iPhone 15 pro max and I have several MacBook pros (M3 Max on the way) and everyone in my family has their own iPad. I hate…
Absolutely lqughing at anyone who thinks the particular colors matter. Ugly green? Calming blue? The specific color does not matter, the only thing that matters is that they are differentiated for the Star-Belly Sneetches hadbellies with stars and the Plain-Belly Sneetches had none upon thars...
Actually the green is far less saturated, making it less contrasting with the white text, making it look much worse.
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