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Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by metadat »

zachlloyd wrote: post #7
nynx wrote: post #4

Is your plan to open-source this or open-source its core in the future?

It's a good question, one that we are discussing a bunch. We are planning to first open-source our Rust UI framework, and then parts and potentially all of our client codebase. The server portion of Warp will remain closed-source for now. You can see how we’re thinking about open source here: https://github.com/warpdotdev/Warp/discussions/400 TLDR; As a side note, we are open sourcing our extension points as we go. T…

Why does it need a server? Is that normal for a terminal?

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by metadat »

smoldesu wrote: post #94
michlim wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Warp engineer here. Warp is actually free for individuals. Our business model is to make the terminal so useful for individuals that their companies will want to pay for the team features. Even those will likely be free up to some level of usage and only charged in a company context.

I look forward to a fork that strips out all the network access and SaaS options. Then I might be interested.

Isn't this called Alacritty?

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by smoldesu »

sgt wrote: post #127
madeofpalk wrote: post #96

> I’m ___, founder and CEO of Warp, and am excited to show you Warp, a fast Rust-based terminal To be honest - it feels weird seeing a company launch a free terminal, in 2022. How will the company make money? How long will this tool be around for? How will this company degrade the experience, or my privacy, so they can make money? I also don't know how to square my thoughts on the above with the need to have sustaina…

Here's my idea! A repurposed "sl" (the stream locomotive program) that displays ads every 300 characters you type.

We're going to need more analytics on customers use pattern before we can launch this idea publicly though.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by vultour »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #125
qeternity wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by metadat »

Klonoar wrote: post #220
qbasic_forever wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use Windows? Have you ever opened its terminal? Congrats, you're using a terminal that you agreed can phone home with telemtry. See https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-terminal/9n0dx20hk... and the link to the privacy policy for windows terminal http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=521839 I suspect OSX is no different and has similar telemetry and privacy policy for its terminal.

In an (absurd-ish) defense of macOS, I don't believe anyone really uses the built-in Terminal and grabs an alternative (often iTerm2). There's also the rumor that Terminal in macOS has had a handful of developers working on it, at best, over the years. I would bet money that Apple doesn't care enough about it to bother with telemetry and/or privacy policies for it.

I used iTerm from 2010-2018, but then I saw a respected colleague not using iTerm, so I decided to try out the Terminal.app bundled with macOS. It actually works fine, the only difference is that it never gets slow and is available on ever mac machine.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by renewiltord »

alokedesai wrote: post #314
renewiltord wrote: post #151

Hello, your product looks cool and I don't care about telemetry as it looks here. However, what is your ultimate business model? For tools like this I would prefer either a single purchase or a Jetbrains style annual-pay-with-fallback-licence.

Hey, thanks for the kind words! The terminal is totally free for individuals. Our business model is to make the terminal so useful for individuals that their companies will want to pay for the team features. The general philosophy is that we would never charge for anything a terminal currently does. So no paywalls around SSH or anything like that. The types of features we could eventually charge for are things that h…

Dope. I shall install this.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by monocularvision »

Klonoar wrote: post #220
qbasic_forever wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use Windows? Have you ever opened its terminal? Congrats, you're using a terminal that you agreed can phone home with telemtry. See https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-terminal/9n0dx20hk... and the link to the privacy policy for windows terminal http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=521839 I suspect OSX is no different and has similar telemetry and privacy policy for its terminal.

In an (absurd-ish) defense of macOS, I don't believe anyone really uses the built-in Terminal and grabs an alternative (often iTerm2). There's also the rumor that Terminal in macOS has had a handful of developers working on it, at best, over the years. I would bet money that Apple doesn't care enough about it to bother with telemetry and/or privacy policies for it.

I have been using the built-in macOS terminal every day for years now.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by spudlyo »

bspammer wrote: post #142
johnnypangs wrote: post #16

Anyone know how this lines up to other terminals performance wise. I’ve been pretty happy with alacritty, but would be willing to try a terminal with more features. https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty

What do performance problems in a terminal even look like? I feel like a crazy person in this thread because I’ve literally never had the thought: “I could be so much more productive but this damn terminal is slowing me down”.

Imagine you're using a terminal based text editor full-screen with say 364 columns and 77 rows. You've got it nicely split into three vertical windows for code, with a tree display a fort window on the left-hand side. One of these three code windows is split horizontally and is tailing a log file, and you're quickly paging through code on another.

This is a lot of terminal I/O, and you want this scrolling to be fast, smooth, and to not flash or blink awkwardly.

I do this because I'm running my editor on a remote machine over SSH, which has a ton of cores, memory, and fast disk. Just firing up the LSP server on this giant monorepo causes the fans on my laptop to spin like crazy and takes forever to initialize. Blazing fast on this remote host.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by michlim »

nepeckman wrote: post #312

I think there is a lot of potential for creativity in the terminal space, and warp has some cool ideas. I'd honestly even be willing to pay directly for a terminal if it went above and beyond in terms of efficiency and functionality. Unfortunately I cannot try warp, as I don't have an osx machine. I understand that cross platform (in particular Linux ports) is a challenge, and I usually don't expect that from consume…

Warp engineer here. Thank you for the kind words.

We do want to support linux once we get the product experience right. We decided to build in Rust and set up a UI framework because we wanted to make it easier for us to port to Linux.

For now, every platform we support entails additional engineering overhead that takes away from getting to product-market fit. Once there, we will invest resources into supporting Linux, Windows, and the Web.

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