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Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by matthew-wegner »

jotux wrote: post #364
afavour wrote: post #324

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That would make sense: because Apple have deeply coupled iMessage to the OS they can’t simply roll out a new version of the app with protocol changes that would block Beeper, they’d have to release entire OS updates. No matter the method it would be a scorched earth approach. I suspect the number of people actually using Beeper will be far below a rounding error for Apple.

I'm not that familiar with ios apps, can they not push out updates to individual apps?

Not the OS-included ones, afaik. Some Apple apps are through the AppStore normally, which can be updated independently (i.e. TestFlight, despite its deep hooks).

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by graphe »

ianlevesque wrote: post #98
graphe wrote: post #55

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Old hardware that doesn't have it. Are they gonna ban my iMac from 2009 that was before iMessage was a thing?

Yes, they are. You already don't get OS updates.

No they aren't. My iMessage still works, and so will other devices that had iMessage.

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Post by lxgr »

afavour wrote: post #324
chipgap98 wrote: post #314

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I saw an article on the topic where the reporter spoke with Beeper's CEO, Eric Migicovsky. He seems to believe that blocking Beeper might cause problems for legitimate Apple user's. Obviously that outcome is something he wants, but I still think its interesting. [0]: https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/5/23987817/beeper-mini-imes...

That would make sense: because Apple have deeply coupled iMessage to the OS they can’t simply roll out a new version of the app with protocol changes that would block Beeper, they’d have to release entire OS updates. No matter the method it would be a scorched earth approach. I suspect the number of people actually using Beeper will be far below a rounding error for Apple.

Non-Apple legitimate users aren't the only concern for Apple: Once third-party clients are readily available, this makes spam much harder to filter.

Right now they can probably just ban known-spam-originating devices, which is much more effective than banning iCloud accounts since there is a much higher cost to the spammers.

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Post by raydev »

nebula8804 wrote: post #343
saagarjha wrote: post #246

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This didn’t really say much. Apple definitely knows about Hackintosh users, they mostly just don’t care. The question is whether they will actually do something if made to care.

They 'don't care' because they know that the M series processors were coming and now there is a built in death counter coming for Hackintoshes...the day they drop Intel support. June 5, 2028: Intel hardware will reach "vintage" status after having been discontinued five years prior, ending most of Apple's service and parts support for Intel hardware. June 5, 2030: Intel hardware will reach "obsolete" status after hav…

> They 'don't care' because they know that the M series processors were coming and now there is a built in death counter coming for Hackintoshes

No, they don't care because they don't think about it at all. Hackintosh's numbers never mattered, it's always been too onerous to maintain even when it was at its easiest.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by FireInsight »

unshavedyak wrote: post #129

Side note, i'd love if Beeper could impl some "standard" open APIs to brute force us in a new unified direction. I feel like the chat ecosystem is in the days of pre-LSP editors. Anytime i wanted to try a new fancy term based editor, i'd lose out of very basic features like code completion, jumping, etc. Since LSP came around, i can basically jump to any editor because everyone has this baked in now, and it works wit…

Beeper (Cloud?) is based on Matrix, so I guess that's the open standard you're looking for?

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Post by qup »

ronyeh wrote: post #342
ggreer wrote: post #337

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SMS messages on iOS have always been green. iMessage was released four years after the original iPhone.

People keep telling me this as an excuse but the original color scheme was more pleasing to the eye. The current color scheme is painful to the eyes. I know because I see the ugly green bubbles on my messages app on my iPhone. I also have an iPhone 3 in a drawer that sadly no longer works. You know you wouldn’t want to swap the green and blue bubbles.

It's 2023, why can't the iMessage app allow some user preferences. Christ.
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