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Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Post by pineaux »

stuxnet79 wrote: post #272
r3vrse wrote: post #264

Neat! I have wondered how much of a foothold "retrograde" tech will take in the next 10-20 years. Decision fatigue, nostalgia, attenuation — call it what you will. At some level we're tacitly acknowledging that the vast ocean of content and complexity we've created is beyond what is desirable or even healthy to effectively evaluate. A very modern malaise. Excuse the armchair philosophizing.

There's certainly a market for it among the older crowd, but for those who've spent their formative years consuming content in the Netflix / Youtube era ... you can't miss what you've never had. I do echo the decision fatigue complaint - there is simply too much content out there to meaningfully engage with. The downsides of living in such a connected world ...

This is actually very untrue. It sound right but it's not. A lot of the younger crowd takes to analogue devices as bees to honey when they've had a chance to use it. Vinyl is a growth market. Tapes are being collected. Even film roll companies are experiencing year over year growth. Since their demise 10 years earlier. I think it's because all these things are not "nothing" you can destroy them, lose them, sell them, buy them, own them, give them away, hold them, they are unique and hard to copy.

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Post by rickreynoldssf »

klaussilveira wrote: post #298

I'll never understood why Netflix, Hulu and others haven't done something similar to this. It's a much more natural way of "finding out" what you want to see. Create a bunch of channels based on existing tags or categories, have thing playing on a schedule, and allow me to zap through. Bonus points if you allow me to zap as efficiently as I was able to back when we had analog TVs and cable. I was the master zapper, z…

There was a startup called RheoTV started by ex-Apple people that did exactly that and it didn't work out.

There was also something called NeverThink that had the same fate.

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Post by milkers »

HL33tibCe7 wrote: post #117

This is the kind of brilliant idea that seems so completely obvious in hindsight that it's hard to believe no-one has done it before

I attempted a similar one 3 years ago actually (https://tv.istasyon.app). It was a weekend project and I left it as is since then.

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Post by pineaux »

archon810 wrote: post #179
colecut wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you really like a video and want to watch it later, it displayed the video ID. I really like the no pausing / everyone being in sync aspect, it's maybe the best feature

Why not add a link to the video instead of just the id?

Because you want it to be a hurdle. The hurdle nudges you to not go to the YouTube experience and stay in the YouTube tv experience. So to the creator: the way you did it now is perfect!

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Post by xk_id »

lucasoshiro wrote: post #32

This is something I always wonder... Something that I really miss from TV on internet content (YouTube, movie streamings and so on) is turn it on and watching what's being transmitted without thinking about what I wanna see. Three reasons: 1. Picking something to watch takes time. Sometimes I only want to see something in the 15 minutes that I'm dining alone. My meal gets cold before I start the video 2. Choosing som…

How strange, I’m the complete opposite. I’d never go back to letting corporates dictate how I engage with content; I even avoid recommender algorithms for the same reason. Being able to choose is so valuable to me.

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Post by milkers »

lazylion2 wrote: post #283

Great idea, beautifully executed! was annoying that i couldn't find the source of the the video (i know you provide the id, but still), had to remove a couple of elements to be able to rightclick the video and copy the url at timestamp

Agreed, it is so clean and simple what @hadisafa did! In my version (https://tv.istasyon.app/) I made it more obvious instead of hiding title etc., I thought it would be more honest to the actual creator with a ref back.

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Post by llm_trw »

xk_id wrote: post #336
lucasoshiro wrote: post #32

This is something I always wonder... Something that I really miss from TV on internet content (YouTube, movie streamings and so on) is turn it on and watching what's being transmitted without thinking about what I wanna see. Three reasons: 1. Picking something to watch takes time. Sometimes I only want to see something in the 15 minutes that I'm dining alone. My meal gets cold before I start the video 2. Choosing som…

How strange, I’m the complete opposite. I’d never go back to letting corporates dictate how I engage with content; I even avoid recommender algorithms for the same reason. Being able to choose is so valuable to me.

>I’d never go back to letting corporates dictate how I engage with content

You do realize that the search function is literally that?

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Post by milkers »

sev wrote: post #297

This is awesome. How come we never see ads?

I've also noticed that when I did my version of this app more than 3 years ago (https://tv.istasyon.app). Somehow the ads are limited or gone if you play videos as embedded. At some point, I thought YouTube had fixed that but seemingly not. The easiest way to do it is to find the YouTube video URL and replace that part `/watch?v=` with `/embed/`, then voila!
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