FYI if you sign up as a tech employee, it lets you view requests (and seemingly respond to them? I didn't try.) without verifying your account. This includes whatever personal details the user put into the request.
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#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
As in "not illegal, but still gonna get you fired?"
Sounds like they long left Facebook. Only danger is Meta realizing that these request all come from one source and blacklisting them. That said, Meta must received tens of thousands of appeals, so it'd be easy to lay low. But yes, I have no clue what employee inside would agree to work on this for an extended period.
Internal requests are very likely not in the tens of thousands - they're probably processed entirely separately. It'd be easy to spot one employee constantly filing these requests for random people.
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#333This is commercial bribery in most places. >California Code, Penal Code - PEN § 641.3 >(a) Any employee who solicits, accepts, or agrees to accept money or any thing of value from a person other than his or her employer, other than in trust for the employer, corruptly and without the knowledge or consent of the employer, in return for using or agreeing to use his or her position for the benefit of that other person,…
What if it’s over a series of transactions? Eg, two dozen visits to a restaurant where you get better service than other tables because you’re a big tipper?
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#334Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weird, so wait, are campaign donations capped at $250?
How is that bribery?
It's true. Bribery is for super pacs with much higher caps. Or was it, pacs have caps but super pacs don't? I forget how those work.
Point is, when you go to a meeting with especially wealthy donors that fund your campaign through super pacs, then ensure the dialog from those meetings is never made public, I think its reasonable to assume some form of bribery has occurred, if not strictly within the legal definition.
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#335> for the benefit of that other person What if I route the payment through a third party like my lawyer Mr. Cohen
I laughed, but I felt the need to downvote. By the rules, this is off topic, but personally, I'm exhausted by politics being injected into every other topic of conversation. Even if you and I agree politically, I think we can reduce hyper partisanship by not being political in discussions outside of politics. It's the reason this joke exists:
How can you tell whether someone is a vegan or into CrossFit? Because they will tell you about it.
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#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
As others pointed out, this is a huge problem in the making. Someone who genuinely deserves the suspension (e.g. posts illegal content) will use the service. They'll get their suspension lifted because the company trusts the internal employee who filled out the form. Said person will continue to post illegal content and be suspended again. Enough true negatives like this and eventually the company will discover the e…
> But the worst is that the company stops allowing all internal employees from filling out forms for anyone. That feels like a good outcome to me. "I know a guy" should not be a reason to get preferential treatment. As much as I'm sure it absolutely sucks to lose an account on most of these services, I'd rather they stay lost for everyone, rather than get reinstated for people who happen to have connections.
The thing is that this preferential treatment should be the default - people should be able to get their accounts looked at, but as always there are hold-ups and moderator shortages and whatnot that drag waiting times closer to infinity. It's not like everyone else is guaranteed to be banned indefinitely - it's more akin to pulling your friends out of the line and helping them yourself. As long as it's not done at the expense of everyone else, I don't care much for it.
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#337This is wrong and risky at so many levels, not sure if using the big tech name here was a clickbait in the first place
1. Not all employees have access to account and user data in any medium+ size company
2. What one does in their own time is personal business but what one does in their own time on company IP is not personal anymore. The person might even get fired, the karma point or couple hundred are not worth the risk.
3. This just creates a channel to identify the weak links in human chain for phishing attacks
Ironically instagram was not even in the list for selection for the form
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It's not "moralfagging", it's just so idiotic to do this while being an employee. It is in fact so insanely stupid that one should get fired for the ineptitude alone. I am glad this service exists and exposes some of the toughest cases holed up in the corpo employment space.
100% agree. Would never take money for something like this feels irresponsible. But it is a reaction to a very real problem that everyday people have all the time, and the comments all being "omg im sooo angry u deserve to be fired" instead of something useful is sad
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#339This is commercial bribery in most places. >California Code, Penal Code - PEN § 641.3 >(a) Any employee who solicits, accepts, or agrees to accept money or any thing of value from a person other than his or her employer, other than in trust for the employer, corruptly and without the knowledge or consent of the employer, in return for using or agreeing to use his or her position for the benefit of that other person,…
What if it’s over a series of transactions? Eg, two dozen visits to a restaurant where you get better service than other tables because you’re a big tipper?
> without the knowledge or consent of the employer
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#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
The concept seems like… performance art protest or something. Building a platform to bribe your way through the opaque customer non-service system of these companies is either low corruption or high art.
100% - I see lots of comments saying things like "Don't you know companies would fire you for this??" which to me sounds a little bit like "Don't you know you shouldn't eat babies??" after reading A Modest Proposal. On the other hand, I guess life does imitate art sometimes...
The author is either for real or very committed to the bit.