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Re: Show HN: Seven39, a social media app that is only open for 3 hours every evening

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Post by wruza »

conductr wrote: post #258
Ylpertnodi wrote: post #247

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3 upvotes per day.

When there’s no algorithm, just a list view feed, upvotes don’t really serve any purpose. I think people like doing it though, so I’d make it just something the liker can see - like it adds it to your “liked” list. The poster doesn’t get a notification or any indication of the popularity of their content.

Lack of upvotes (and downvotes) motivates people to post more than usual, cause there's no other way to [dis]agree or feel agreed with. "Don't serve any purpose" this is a claim that will kill your network before you can think how to shape it.

Re: Show HN: Seven39, a social media app that is only open for 3 hours every evening

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Post by kbelder »

soulofmischief wrote: post #153
1propionyl wrote: post #88

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Forums, perhaps. But small group chats (which I suppose are technically "dark") are the bedrock of the current internet writ large and where most of the content that filters up to places like Twitter comes from.

You're absolutely right and this is something I've studied and thought about quite a lot. The dark aspect of group chats does fundamentally separate them from forums, which had the benefit of searchability, permanence and topic longevity. At least we will benefit from what forums are left in the form of model training data. People give LLMs a lot of shit, but it's possible one day that a language model ends up becomi…

Wow, I hadn't made that connection. We should somehow bundle a current state-of-the-art LLM in a timecapsule right now, and maybe another one every decade.

If, a thousand years from now future historians need to study our time, they can just ask the LLM.

There's a SF story in there somewhere.

Re: Show HN: Seven39, a social media app that is only open for 3 hours every evening

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Post by AlienRobot »

nicgrev103 wrote: post #288

I wish someone made a social media site that has no news feed or any feed, like the facebook of old. Only get notifications and updates from actual people who you have friended. I genuinely think this would be popular, it wouldn't drive the engagement that the feeds and algos do but it would be a more wholesome experience the one we all bought into at the dawn of the social network, only for our friends to be swapped…

I think that social media will never work so long as people can post politics/news/drama/celebrity gossip in it. These are topics that NEVER run out of content. People engaged with it will never find peace and will never let others have peace.

I used to think it was only politics, but I visited a social media like Reddit that filtered politics by default--I forgot what it was called--and it still looked terrible because of all the drama.

It's a colossal waste of time. If you spend 20 hours learning Regex, that will help you for your lifetime. If you spend 20 hours talking about the latest disaster, in 20 hours that is all obsolete because there is a new disaster. And those 20 hours will make you angry and fill you with indignation while even gaming for 20 hours would have a more positive impact on you.

I'm not saying these things aren't important, but they are really not that important compared to how much of the Internet has become soaked with them.

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Post by tr3ntg »

bluebarbet wrote: post #183

Great effort. But I will make the obvious point that does not seem very fashionable these days. What if we chose instead to cultivate self-discipline? This project is a technical fix to a human problem, but human problems can also be addressed with human solutions. Is there no value in doing things the time-honored way? Personally, I'm not addicted to social media but I do have a sweet tooth. The classic hack here is…

What about the site led to the assumption that the time limit is related to discipline and social media overuse? The tag-line is "Because social media is better when we're all online together" not "because social media is hard to stay off of and we need boundaries forced on us."

You're making a great point, and one I think most people agree with, but I'm not sure it's relevant. At least, based on what I see of the website in its "offline" status.

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Post by notpushkin »

twic wrote: post #280
josephg wrote: post #139

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> So yeah, the current window wouldn't work for me, but that's fine. Everything doesn't have to be for everyone. We all live in our bubbles anyway; creating artificial rules could actually be ways of creating new, unexpected interactions. I like the idea that something like this could be open for 3 hours in the evening local time. Like, you'd get totally different communities coming on at different times, and having…

One approach might be to have many instances, like we do with Discord etc, and have the admins choose a timezone, so an instance for French people would be on Paris time, etc. Or even just choose the start of the time range directly. French joggers might prefer a different time to French Counter-Strike players.

A complete opposite approach: same instance for everybody, but you can choose the hours when you sign up. Changing is allowed once every 4 weeks or something.

Re: Show HN: Seven39, a social media app that is only open for 3 hours every evening

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Post by notpushkin »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #234
josephg wrote: post #139

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> So yeah, the current window wouldn't work for me, but that's fine. Everything doesn't have to be for everyone. We all live in our bubbles anyway; creating artificial rules could actually be ways of creating new, unexpected interactions. I like the idea that something like this could be open for 3 hours in the evening local time. Like, you'd get totally different communities coming on at different times, and having…

This happens on Reddit- you'll make a comment that makes sense to Europeans or Asians, and it gets n upvotes. Then America wakes up and all of a sudden it gets n downvotes. It's especially interesting in local expat communities: in Asia local time, you'll make a comment that is the ground truth and it gets n upvotes from locals and other foreigners in-country. But then the children of immigrants in America who are as…

This happened to me in Twitter a lot of times (back when it was good). I’ve seen different parts of my time wake up at different times – a very peculiar effect.

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Post by quesera »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #234
josephg wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So yeah, the current window wouldn't work for me, but that's fine. Everything doesn't have to be for everyone. We all live in our bubbles anyway; creating artificial rules could actually be ways of creating new, unexpected interactions. I like the idea that something like this could be open for 3 hours in the evening local time. Like, you'd get totally different communities coming on at different times, and having…

This happens on Reddit- you'll make a comment that makes sense to Europeans or Asians, and it gets n upvotes. Then America wakes up and all of a sudden it gets n downvotes. It's especially interesting in local expat communities: in Asia local time, you'll make a comment that is the ground truth and it gets n upvotes from locals and other foreigners in-country. But then the children of immigrants in America who are as…

This happens on HN too of course!

Re: Show HN: Seven39, a social media app that is only open for 3 hours every evening

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Post by xj »

Interesting experiment! Have you considered splitting it into three 1-hour blocks spread throughout the day? That way, people in different time zones would always have at least one convenient slot, and it might also feel more intentional-spending a focused hour instead of a longer 3-hour window.
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