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Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by GekkePrutser »

Klonoar wrote: post #220
qbasic_forever wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use Windows? Have you ever opened its terminal? Congrats, you're using a terminal that you agreed can phone home with telemtry. See https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-terminal/9n0dx20hk... and the link to the privacy policy for windows terminal http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=521839 I suspect OSX is no different and has similar telemetry and privacy policy for its terminal.

In an (absurd-ish) defense of macOS, I don't believe anyone really uses the built-in Terminal and grabs an alternative (often iTerm2). There's also the rumor that Terminal in macOS has had a handful of developers working on it, at best, over the years. I would bet money that Apple doesn't care enough about it to bother with telemetry and/or privacy policies for it.

I bet that's true. MacOS terminal is basically still the one from next step. They've kept it up to date with changes like GUI toolkits and added a few minor things like tabs. But that's about it.

Fwiw I never bothered with iTerm, Terminal is good enough for me. It even supports some old school vt100 stuff like double width and height fonts. It's one of the better vt100 compatible ones.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by zachlloyd »

stormbrew wrote: post #205
orastor wrote: post #20

Wanted to give it a shot but got disappointed when I launched it and the following happened: - Outgoing request to googleapis.com - Outgoing request to segment.io - Outgoing request to sentry.io - Requires sign up (only via Github, mind you) I understand the first request is probably to get some dynamic configuration, even though I'd rather my terminal ship with static configuration. But then you have segment and sen…

It's just.. an incredibly bad look to have this be the top comment on a post about this while the website claims that "cloud stuff" is opt-in. It's more essential to be honest about this during the beta period than after, so "oh it will be opt in" is a cold comfort, alongside the approximately never-true "we'll open source it some day." Not touching this with a ten foot pole. Not for something as essential to my day…

We tried to be really upfront in the privacy policy:

https://www.warp.dev/privacy

Opt-in refers to anything that sends any contents of a terminal session to our servers (as opposed to telemetry which is metadata and never contains any terminal input or output). But we hear the feedback and appreciate it.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by ushakov »

wodenokoto wrote: post #292
wildmanx wrote: post #262

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> This means we ended up building completions by hand and soon, via the community. You like people to contribute for free ("build a community") but refuse to give them an actual FOSS client. This is bound to fail. There are ways to make this go both ways though, and I hope you'll make them work once you are a bit further along in your journey. Exciting project!

> You like people to contribute for free ("build a community") but refuse to give them an actual FOSS client. This is bound to fail. Sublime text has a pretty active community that builds and shares extensions. Why not warp?

Sublime is selling a product that users can purchase and own

Warp is owned by venture capitalists

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by wodenokoto »

Klonoar wrote: post #220
qbasic_forever wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use Windows? Have you ever opened its terminal? Congrats, you're using a terminal that you agreed can phone home with telemtry. See https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-terminal/9n0dx20hk... and the link to the privacy policy for windows terminal http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=521839 I suspect OSX is no different and has similar telemetry and privacy policy for its terminal.

In an (absurd-ish) defense of macOS, I don't believe anyone really uses the built-in Terminal and grabs an alternative (often iTerm2). There's also the rumor that Terminal in macOS has had a handful of developers working on it, at best, over the years. I would bet money that Apple doesn't care enough about it to bother with telemetry and/or privacy policies for it.

It’s the only terminal I use on macOS. It’s a really “gets out of your way” piece of software. And super closed source.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by zachlloyd »

JoBrad wrote: post #109
runako wrote: post #68

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> we only track metadata, never console output It would be meaningful to indicate whether you track console input as well.

From their link, it seems they don’t. Agree that positive confirmation would be good, for beta. > We do not store any data from the command input or output itself as part of our telemetry.

This is correct. We do not send or store any terminal contents (input or outputs) to our server.

The only case in which that is not true is if a user elects to use Warp to share the output of a command using our Block Sharing feature.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by marshal_mellow »

justin_oaks wrote: post #203

I assume Warp is fundamentally incompatible with GNU screen or tmux. That's a shame because terminal multiplexers like GNU screen and tmux such a core part of my terminal usage that I'm hesitant to discard them, even for something that looks really useful like Warp. I'm not sure how many people actively use terminal multiplexers like GNU screen and tmux, so maybe I represent only a tiny minority of users.

I suspect its a minority but I'm right there with you. screen is great I love being able to detach and reattach and have many shells in a single window even if I'm on another machine.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by EuAndreh »

nicoburns wrote: post #139
buro9 wrote: post #44

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I'm not sure I'm ready to have SaaS models replace core utilities and tools locally. > Announcing Warp’s Series A: $17M to build a better terminal And just thinking about this... it's not clear to me what their moat will be as I suspect if there's a really compelling feature it will be available in OSS terminals quite quickly. Perhaps it's the product polish? But I'm not sure polish is what I want from a terminal, at…

I doubt their compelling features will be in OSS terminals any time soon. I’ve wanted a terminal that has a decent multi line editor for years , and there’s nothing out there.

In Bash:

    C-x C-e
This opens $EDITOR, and when you finish editing and close it, it runs the code.
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