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Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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I come from using New Relic for our server monitoring, and there are a couple things that I can see that I already love about Sea Lion, their realtime stats, and ad-hoc commands really opens up to allow any kind of monitoring. I would like to see the ability to rename servers instead of using their hostname.. as well as multiple stats on the page at once.. Other than that, this is really awesome! Considering going on…

Is there an equivalent of New Relics application performance monitoring? For example the view of time spent in script, DB, memcache, external, etc all in a stacked line graph?

You mean something like this?

http://www.appneta.com/images/graphics/slides/traceview/trac...

:)

Our languages support is on-par with NewRelic. We just recently release NodeJS instrumentation.

Disclaimer: I work for AppNeta. Our TraceView product does what you want and more (across servers, SOA).

Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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I've got two problems here. 1) Cloud based. No, no, no, absolutely not, no way, no how. I am not hooking up server farms to the internet. Monitoring systems stay behind the firewall. Please come up with a self-hosted version. Moreso when: 2) They log directly into the system. Unprivileged user or not, if you've got shell on my box, "you" being a random company on the internet, it's not my box anymore. Someone hacks…

I'd like to second this. Add a self hosted version and you have a new customer.

Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with Linux geeks looking at well designed websites?

I'm a UNIX geek and I too love "well designed websites" - and imho that site isn't a well designed website. The majority of us are probably using a touchpad on our laptops and the scrolling thing is just horrible in that case. The target customer will expect easily laid out information (as this is a web-based monitoring service) and if they see this "at the front door" then they'll run a mile.

I agree. I opened it on my mobile device and the page was immediately moving and making all kinds of transitions. There's not really any instructions, nor are there any visible controls. It barely even registers as a functional website, so I don't even get to read about the product.

Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with Linux geeks looking at well designed websites?

I'm a UNIX geek and I too love "well designed websites" - and imho that site isn't a well designed website. The majority of us are probably using a touchpad on our laptops and the scrolling thing is just horrible in that case. The target customer will expect easily laid out information (as this is a web-based monitoring service) and if they see this "at the front door" then they'll run a mile.

I'm also a UNIX geek, and I would have to disagree with your opinion.

The design looks solid. I don't know anyone that has troubles scrolling on their laptop these days. I found that quite bizarre to hear. With daily use, you can be nearly as nimble as using a real mouse.

Could you give some suggestions on what you would change? I'm curious how you would display that much data on the screen in a clean manner.

Not trying to argue here, genuinely interested in improving my UI/UX knowledge. Quite useful when building webapps these days.

Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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I've got two problems here. 1) Cloud based. No, no, no, absolutely not, no way, no how. I am not hooking up server farms to the internet. Monitoring systems stay behind the firewall. Please come up with a self-hosted version. Moreso when: 2) They log directly into the system. Unprivileged user or not, if you've got shell on my box, "you" being a random company on the internet, it's not my box anymore. Someone hacks…

I agree with you, though other people may be entirely trusting of the SaaS in question or not care that much about security.

Commando.io is basicly the same service command-execution wise, however, it also offers the possibility for customers to run commando.io self-hosted (presumably enterprise pricing). Having a SaaS I presume, which is working (and successful) can be a boon to future enterprise sales that are concerned with the risks you mentioned.

I wish that all SaaS dealing with access to remote servers have some kind of (more up-front) disclaimer, noting that no matter how secure the service is advertised it will not be responsible for future mishaps/breaks/leaks.

Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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Sorry to be the negative-nancy, but did Nagios (specifically XI) suddenly become hard or something?

Maybe I'm just an old neckbeard by now, but what's with this trend with cloud-hosted middle-man applications (read: expensive web 2.0 frontends) for standard software? If you can't install and configure your own server monitoring, what are you doing hosting your own servers? Am I missing something obvious here?

Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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What if you're using AWS already? I couldn't find any word on CloudWatch integration.

Just sent you an email, but for anyone else who's wondering the same thing: I'll plug Scalyr, which is a server monitoring service with an option to import CloudWatch metrics. https://www.scalyr.com/solutions/import-cloudwatch

A shameless plug, I guess, but although I've seen Scalyr before, I will take another look at it today. Thanks!

Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there an equivalent of New Relics application performance monitoring? For example the view of time spent in script, DB, memcache, external, etc all in a stacked line graph?

You mean something like this? http://www.appneta.com/images/graphics/slides/traceview/trac... :) Our languages support is on-par with NewRelic. We just recently release NodeJS instrumentation. Disclaimer: I work for AppNeta. Our TraceView product does what you want and more (across servers, SOA).

Looks nice, but a bit pricey.

Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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How does this work? Do I need to upload some a file on my server or do any special configuration?

Run the curl command once you sign up. Or, download the tarball and install it manually.

Generally speaking,

  rm -rf /
is a good starting point for those open to running random scripts from the Internet :)

Re: Show HN: SeaLion 2 – Linux Server Monitoring, Alerting and Debugging Tool

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Sorry to be the negative-nancy, but did Nagios (specifically XI) suddenly become hard or something? Maybe I'm just an old neckbeard by now, but what's with this trend with cloud-hosted middle-man applications (read: expensive web 2.0 frontends) for standard software? If you can't install and configure your own server monitoring, what are you doing hosting your own servers? Am I missing something obvious here?

Though on one hand I'm inclined to agree with you regarding Nagios, on the other hand I disagree. What you're missing is the concept of developer empowerment. I am a sysadmin / operations engineer, and one trend I've noticed over the course of the past ten years is one toward developers venturing further and further into what could be labeled "traditional" systems administration. Do not underestimate developer demand. It's fueled many technological "movements" in the past ten years, infrastructure automation being a huge one.
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