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Re: Show HN: A site for teaming up designers and developers on short projects

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Post by imjared »

mbesto wrote: post #27
imjared wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with the thinking here, simply learning Photoshop and CSS doesn't make you a designer and learning programming doesn't make you a programmer. I'm a front-end dev who's more than competent in Photoshop and can write really modular, daresay good CSS but if I had to decide between using a designer or making my own design, nine times out of ten, I'm going to use someone who is, by trade, a designer and has…

While I agree with the thinking here, simply learning Photoshop and CSS doesn't make you a designer and learning programming doesn't make you a programmer. I don't think he said that nor suggested it. The point is being able to empathize with your "other half" (dating term!). Empathy is important and critical for the success of both the technical and interface design of any web product.

Ah, my misunderstanding then!

Re: Show HN: A site for teaming up designers and developers on short projects

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Post by zancler »

angersock wrote: post #25
jtreminio wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was 15 - does it really matter?

"I got in over my head in deliverables" vs. "I totally flaked on talking with the client" vs. "I took his advance and blew it on hookers and blow" Yes, it matters.

A payment I owed him was late by 2/3 months. I have a lot of shit excuses as to why I didn't pay him on time but it was just a bad mistake.

Re: Show HN: A site for teaming up designers and developers on short projects

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Post by angersock »

zancler wrote: post #33
angersock wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I got in over my head in deliverables" vs. "I totally flaked on talking with the client" vs. "I took his advance and blew it on hookers and blow" Yes, it matters.

A payment I owed him was late by 2/3 months. I have a lot of shit excuses as to why I didn't pay him on time but it was just a bad mistake.

Fair enough--been there myself.

Re: Show HN: A site for teaming up designers and developers on short projects

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Post by soemarko »

moron4hire wrote: post #22

Developers: learn Photoshop and CSS. The designers you'll find this way will not be worth anything more as designers than operators of Photoshop and CSS. Designers: learn programming. The programmers you'll find this way will not be worth anything more than a really inefficient way to test your designs through a compiler. There is real value to having a skilled designer and a skilled developer, but those people are r…

I agree with you wholeheartedly, sir. Here's my all-time favorite quote from Ira Glass, to give perspective from the other side.

> "Nobody tells this to people who are beginners, I wish someone told me. All of us who do creative work, we get into it because we have good taste. But there is this gap. For the first couple years you make stuff, it’s just not that good. It’s trying to be good, it has potential, but it’s not. But your taste, the thing that got you into the game, is still killer. And your taste is why your work disappoints you.

> A lot of people never get past this phase, they quit. We know our work doesn’t have this special thing that we want it to have. We all go through this. And if you are just starting out or you are still in this phase, you gotta know its normal and the most important thing you can do is do a lot of work. It’s normal to take awhile. You’ve just gotta fight your way through."

Re: Show HN: A site for teaming up designers and developers on short projects

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moron4hire wrote: post #22

Developers: learn Photoshop and CSS. The designers you'll find this way will not be worth anything more as designers than operators of Photoshop and CSS. Designers: learn programming. The programmers you'll find this way will not be worth anything more than a really inefficient way to test your designs through a compiler. There is real value to having a skilled designer and a skilled developer, but those people are r…

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Re: Show HN: A site for teaming up designers and developers on short projects

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Post by wc- »

Signed up and looking forward to the email! Does anyone know of other sites like this out there? I've spent the past year or so pushing my own startup idea, it didn't work out but I learned a lot. Now I am just looking to take a few months off of my own ideas and pitch in on someone else's MVP, get more experience, and meet new people.

I guess I might as well shamelessly plug myself: I am a developer who writes python and nodejs on the backend, loves coffeescript, and my last project used Meteor.

Re: Show HN: A site for teaming up designers and developers on short projects

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Post by jasonshen »

seivan wrote: post #29
moron4hire wrote: post #22

Developers: learn Photoshop and CSS. The designers you'll find this way will not be worth anything more as designers than operators of Photoshop and CSS. Designers: learn programming. The programmers you'll find this way will not be worth anything more than a really inefficient way to test your designs through a compiler. There is real value to having a skilled designer and a skilled developer, but those people are r…

Just subbmitted: Application for tracking IOU's. I'll handle iOS design & dev, web JS (done) and REST API (done). You do web front (CSS). Basically, my CSS and HTML sucks massive schlong. But I've gotten the front-end working prettly neatly (Batman.JS with CofeeScript) with the RESTFUL (in true meaning) API. I want to focus on an iOS version + some additional social provider authentication while you do the front-end…

Just curious: What do you mean IOU's? Like money between friends? Favors? Something else?
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