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Re: Show HN: Twosome - app created originally for my girlfriend

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Post by jonathanconway »

jonathanconway wrote: post #29
ahoyhere wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Sure, they're babies! But they're babies with POWER!" I guess you live in the movie The Incredibles?

I didn't say women have power, I just said women are in control when it comes to sex, in western societies. This is assuming normal, legal situations. Of course all forms of rape are an exception to this. There's just no getting around the fact that women CHOOSE to be with men like this. Those men are "winners" in regard to relationships, except that it's not much of a victory to win the type of women they win.

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Re: Show HN: Twosome - app created originally for my girlfriend

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Post by jonathanconway »

ahoyhere wrote: post #30
jonathanconway wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say women have power, I just said women are in control when it comes to sex, in western societies. This is assuming normal, legal situations. Of course all forms of rape are an exception to this. There's just no getting around the fact that women CHOOSE to be with men like this. Those men are "winners" in regard to relationships, except that it's not much of a victory to win the type of women they win.

You convinced me. It's a fact! It's a fact because you called it "the fact that." On a serious note, I'm sorry you feel* that way (* not think, no matter how much you think it's "logical"), but have you ever considered that it's you?

If women don't CHOOSE to be with men like this, then either A) women are with men like this, but not by choice, or B) women aren't with men like this, by choice.

So which is it, Amy?

If most women don't go for men like this, then most relationships aren't like this.

But then why would a profit-seeking company spend the dollars on a video that portrays people like this?

You yourself implied (I think) in a recent tweet, that this company was disregarding ethics to appeal to a mass audience.

"@DanielAmitay well no point in asking THAT, since avg corporate ethics is clear for all to see. :) q: do they KNOW what they're doing?"

If most women aren't like this, who's the company's marketing aimed at? A tiny minority?

And by the way, when did I ever say it wasn't "me"? I'm not claiming any moral high-ground here.

I never said women shouldn't be the way they are.

If I'm upset, it's just because I happen to lose out in today's culture.

But I never said (or even implied) that the culture should change. The culture is what it is and I am what I am, and I just have to deal with that.

Re: Show HN: Twosome - app created originally for my girlfriend

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Post by ben1040 »

twanschik wrote: post #15
ecoffey wrote: post #14

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I'm guessing it's syncing a seed to srand(), so neither of you control when the messages pop up

That's correct. So once connected you will always get random notifications at the same time, even with NO network :)

Aha, that's what I was missing. I didn't realize from the app description that it was a randomized message, and I thought it was one device's user sending a message to the other.

Re: Show HN: Twosome - app created originally for my girlfriend

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Post by twanschik »

jacalata wrote: post #35

It's brilliant. 1. onetime investment of a few minutes while you install the app and sync 2. secretly uninstall or turn off the app 3. your SO gets to feel like you're being sickeningly cute together constantly, and you don't have to do anything!

Just one note: uninstalling the app will cancel all notifications. Just turn the app off to stay connected.

Re: Show HN: Twosome - app created originally for my girlfriend

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Post by michaelgrafl »

jonathanconway wrote: post #25
ahoyhere wrote: post #19

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Watch it again and look closely at how the video focuses on the woman the entire time. She's child-like and the only one who seems emotionally involved in the relationship… but in almost exclusively passive way. (All the dude does is smirk for a fraction of a second when something "nice" occurs.) Every interaction focuses on her. She kisses him on the cheek; he just looks at the camera. She kisses his picture during…

Amy, I agree with your analysis, except for what you leave out: Most couples are like this. The woman IS a silly, child-like, passive, docile baby, and the guy IS a silly, narcissistic, self-absorbed robot. These are the ways women behave, and these are the kinds of guys women fall for, because that's what our culture encourages. If you detect a sexist tone in what I'm saying because I seem to be blaming women, I can…

I'm pretty sure I get to choose who NOT to sleep with, and so do women. All rape aside of course, ho ho ho.

The tone of your comment depresses me. It sounds so bitter. And confused. As if you hadn't had sex or a healthy relationship in a very long time, if ever, and feel powerless to change that.

If it's so, I hope it changes soon.

Re: Show HN: Twosome - app created originally for my girlfriend

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Post by MDS100 »

jonathanconway wrote: post #32
ahoyhere wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You convinced me. It's a fact! It's a fact because you called it "the fact that." On a serious note, I'm sorry you feel* that way (* not think, no matter how much you think it's "logical"), but have you ever considered that it's you?

If women don't CHOOSE to be with men like this, then either A) women are with men like this, but not by choice, or B) women aren't with men like this, by choice. So which is it, Amy? If most women don't go for men like this, then most relationships aren't like this. But then why would a profit-seeking company spend the dollars on a video that portrays people like this? You yourself implied (I think) in a recent tweet…

Who cares what most couples/women are like. You are on here, so you'll tend to find a very small proportion of women attractive. (presuming higher than average intelligence) If you are proactive enough to choose in your dating life, you wouldn't complain about the culture. That's just externalizing the sources of your problems.

"If I'm upset, it's just because I happen to lose out in today's culture." Make the most out of yourself and play the numbers game. The culture is better than at any point in the past. More choice, more freedom for both sides (it's not a war or a competition - everybody wins). You just "loose" if you don't invest in yourself and overcome fears.

Re: Show HN: Twosome - app created originally for my girlfriend

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Post by philsnow »

twanschik wrote: post #23
scrumper wrote: post #21

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Interesting. I really do like it. It's naff but in the best possible way. (I'm working on something related for my wife at the moment but it's even cheesier than Twosome - not sharing it here :]) Do you do some sort of seed exchange/negotiation? Something like swap current system times, and use the higher as the seed?

Something similar: both phones exchange a random seed and compute the arithmetic mean in order to get a common seed :)

This biases the chosen seeds towards the middle.. You could do something like add them both together modulo the size of whatever the random seed is on the platform, that should be unbiased.

Re: Show HN: Twosome - app created originally for my girlfriend

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Post by ahoyhere »

jonathanconway wrote: post #32
ahoyhere wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You convinced me. It's a fact! It's a fact because you called it "the fact that." On a serious note, I'm sorry you feel* that way (* not think, no matter how much you think it's "logical"), but have you ever considered that it's you?

If women don't CHOOSE to be with men like this, then either A) women are with men like this, but not by choice, or B) women aren't with men like this, by choice. So which is it, Amy? If most women don't go for men like this, then most relationships aren't like this. But then why would a profit-seeking company spend the dollars on a video that portrays people like this? You yourself implied (I think) in a recent tweet…

You think we're having a big debate, but we're not. Your central thesis: "Most couples are like this. Women are like x. Men are like y." You have zero evidence for this. We're not having a discussion at all. I am saying "There's no evidence" and you're arguing with tautologies -- "If women don't CHOOSE to be with men like this, then either A) women are with men like this, but not by choice, or B) women aren't with men like this, by choice." That false binary choice includes a big assumption. Do you see it?

I never claimed that narcissism like in the video is prevalent… nor did I claim that it isn't. What I said was "This video is from a wholly narcissistic viewpoint."

I didn't say THIS company was disregarding ethics. I made no judgment other than "this is narcissistic" and (in that twitter conversation you extracted) "This video isn't guy-focused, it's narcissist-focused. If I was a guy, I'd find Couple's apparent opinion of me insulting."

The tweet you excerpted was from from a separate, subsequent conversation:

DANIEL: I meant my original tweet slightly in jest: Could a company potentially be OK with their sexist video if it got them results?

ME: well no point in asking THAT, since avg corporate ethics is clear for all to see. :) q: do they KNOW what they're doing?

You COULD rebut the idea that the average corporation will gladly use sexism to sell things, but it would be a waste of your breath.

My question: "Do they KNOW what they're doing? Do they SEE what they're portraying with their video? Do they know what narcissism is?" is a useful one, on the other hand.

You said:

> If most women aren't like this, who's the company's marketing aimed at? A tiny minority?

Tautology. "It must work, or else why would they do it?" This is not a safe assumption. See again my useful question above.

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