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Re: Show HN: Open-source Workspace (mail,docs,spreadsheet,drive) web/iOS

#31
I like this. However, I just gave your Sheets a simple stress test by selecting a bunch of cells, then using the fill handle to populate other cells, and afterward doing an undo (Ctrl+Z). It completely crapped out and did not do what I expected...which was to return to its original state prior to using the fill handle, with the selection still selected.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Workspace (mail,docs,spreadsheet,drive) web/iOS

#32
I have been considering Nextcloud for a homelab install, but dreading the deployment/maintenance story there if I ever start relying on it as a source of truth. Would definitely consider a smaller option like this.

My biggest worry is your supply chain. If you're mostly using AI, would love to see you build your own library of functions and drop as many direct and transient dependencies as possible.

Nice work!

Re: Show HN: Open-source Workspace (mail,docs,spreadsheet,drive) web/iOS

#33
post #31

I like this. However, I just gave your Sheets a simple stress test by selecting a bunch of cells, then using the fill handle to populate other cells, and afterward doing an undo (Ctrl+Z). It completely crapped out and did not do what I expected...which was to return to its original state prior to using the fill handle, with the selection still selected.

Sorry it didn't work :( I just tried and looks like it got _so close_, it did undo the insertion of values, but the selection remained. I think that's probably debatable behavior, but isn't what Google Sheets does.

I may be mis-understanding what you experienced though, If you'd like to provide more details and/or some screenshots please file a issue https://github.com/tinycld/calc/issues

Re: Show HN: Open-source Workspace (mail,docs,spreadsheet,drive) web/iOS

#34

I have been considering Nextcloud for a homelab install, but dreading the deployment/maintenance story there if I ever start relying on it as a source of truth. Would definitely consider a smaller option like this. My biggest worry is your supply chain. If you're mostly using AI, would love to see you build your own library of functions and drop as many direct and transient dependencies as possible. Nice work!

hah, so I've been fighting AI all the time as it tries to write all this on it's own vs re-using libraries. To me that's a much safer option, because the libraries all pre-date AI so I assume the authors know what they're doing.

Not to bag on Nextcloud but I do think that this is _much_ easier to understand and maintain, it's standard Go/React/Sqlite, nothing esoteric so if you did need to maintain it I'm sure anyone could pick it up. Of course I don't really know Php so that def flavors my opinions here.

I have an example of a one-shot TODO app: https://github.com/tinycld/todo just to demonstrate what's possible.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Workspace (mail,docs,spreadsheet,drive) web/iOS

#35

I have been considering Nextcloud for a homelab install, but dreading the deployment/maintenance story there if I ever start relying on it as a source of truth. Would definitely consider a smaller option like this. My biggest worry is your supply chain. If you're mostly using AI, would love to see you build your own library of functions and drop as many direct and transient dependencies as possible. Nice work!

hah, so I've been fighting AI all the time as it tries to write all this on it's own vs re-using libraries. To me that's a much safer option, because the libraries all pre-date AI so I assume the authors know what they're doing. Not to bag on Nextcloud but I do think that this is _much_ easier to understand and maintain, it's standard Go/React/Sqlite, nothing esoteric so if you did need to maintain it I'm sure anyone…

The claims you make about Go/React are similar to the claims made by PHP and Python and JS users. Basically: the thing I'm familiar with is easy - then imply that it would be the same level of easy for others.

This does look easier than Nextcloud however I'm not sure thats the tech-stack. Generally the new project is easier/simpler because it doesn't have so many years of scope-creep, work-arounds, half-imolemented-then-abandond features.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Workspace (mail,docs,spreadsheet,drive) web/iOS

#36
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

hah, so I've been fighting AI all the time as it tries to write all this on it's own vs re-using libraries. To me that's a much safer option, because the libraries all pre-date AI so I assume the authors know what they're doing. Not to bag on Nextcloud but I do think that this is _much_ easier to understand and maintain, it's standard Go/React/Sqlite, nothing esoteric so if you did need to maintain it I'm sure anyone…

The claims you make about Go/React are similar to the claims made by PHP and Python and JS users. Basically: the thing I'm familiar with is easy - then imply that it would be the same level of easy for others. This does look easier than Nextcloud however I'm not sure thats the tech-stack. Generally the new project is easier/simpler because it doesn't have so many years of scope-creep, work-arounds, half-imolemented-t…

yep very true, everyone has their preferred stack, and greenfield is _always_ easier than maintaining years worth of past code.

I did look really closely at Nextcloud when it came time to leave Google apps. I really wanted it to work but also wanted:

* Realtime updates - Pockebase gives us this for free.

* A native app - React Native * Lightweight docs that work on mobile. Collabora is very full-featured but is also pretty slow. It remains to be seen if I've successfully here because we're only starting to use our docs "for real"

And also: I'm absolutely sure this has many bugs that I've yet to uncover. All I can say is that I am planning on using it for real-world business stuff so I'm sure we'll be uncovering and fixing them throughout the next year.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Workspace (mail,docs,spreadsheet,drive) web/iOS

#37
post #17

The spreadsheet app looks like a really nice boiler plate. I was surprised to learn about this amazing library digging through the docs: https://github.com/handsontable/hyperformula

Yes, Hyperformula is amazing! it's actually the primary reason TinyCld is AGPL vs MIT, doing so was totally worth it in order to be compatible with it's GPL3 license.

Thanks for a good word! Founder of HyperFormula here. HF will go AGPL soon, too

Re: Show HN: Open-source Workspace (mail,docs,spreadsheet,drive) web/iOS

#40
Thank you for sharing. Nice landing page and very cool demo.

I was wondering what your reason is of developing it instead of just use nextcloud for your company or for mail, calendar, drive, docs and sheets? I mean at least with nextcloud you'd be up and running and have a battle tested solution.

I totally get the do it yourself approach and it's reason enough. And combining all the apps in one web interface is really solved well. Kudos. But I just wonder what your technical and maybe other reasons were.

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