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Re: Show HN: Needle: We Distilled Gemini Tool Calling into a 26M Model

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post #11

Suggestion: publish a live demo of the "needle playground". It's small enough that it should be pretty cheap to run this on a little VPS somewhere!

thanks, yeah, the problem is just handling scale, we don't have the infra ready to go, but anyone can do that. Its easy for people to run on their laptops straight up. Will try the VPS route.

Deployed it to a huggingface space: https://huggingface.co/spaces/benoitfavre/needle-playground

You can check the very simple docker file there.

Re: Show HN: Needle: We Distilled Gemini Tool Calling into a 26M Model

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post #28

Sounds interesting. Got a bunch of errors trying to run it on CPU though. Very likely connected to me running this in a container (unpriv LXC), but figured for 26M CPU would suffice. https://pastebin.com/PYZJKTNk

It better, considering its purpose is to run on devices with no GPU.

Re: Show HN: Needle: We Distilled Gemini Tool Calling into a 26M Model

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post #17

FYI, distilling Gemini is explicitly against the ToS: "You may not use the Services to develop models that compete with the Services (e.g., Gemini API or Google AI Studio). You also may not attempt to reverse engineer, extract or replicate any component of the Services, including the underlying data or models (e.g., parameter weights)."

Thanks, Needle doesn’t compete with those tools though and the distillation process did not access the weights.

Re: Show HN: Needle: We Distilled Gemini Tool Calling into a 26M Model

#37
post #35

I find this stuff super fascinating and been thinking about it myself. Maybe one could bootstrap tiny models on a rather 'pure' procedural data set. Neglecting [0] of course... [0]: http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html

Sounds interesting, would love to see it too!
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