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Show HN: Countries where you can leave your MacBook at a random coffee shop

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Re: Show HN: Countries where you can leave your MacBook at a random coffee shop

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South Korea has CCTVs all over the place (especially in the cities), and even small-scale robbery is treated as a very serious crime that often it's not worth the risk.

It’s not only the CCTVs, haha. In Korea, even petty theft is culturally treated as a pretty serious offense. People generally see stealing itself as crossing a big line.

Wow enforcing laws and cultural taboos deters crime?

Re: Show HN: Countries where you can leave your MacBook at a random coffee shop

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in korea u can literally leave ur wallet, laptop, expensive bag at your table and go eat lunch or do something else for an hr and come back and it'll still be there (and people are used to it). one of the few places that surprised me more than japan lol. but dont leave ur bike or umbrella out.

South Korea has CCTVs all over the place (especially in the cities), and even small-scale robbery is treated as a very serious crime that often it's not worth the risk.

yeah it's not just the CCTVs, very ingrained culturally somehow, at least for this type of theft (stealing personal stuff from cafes/restaurants/etc)

Re: Show HN: Countries where you can leave your MacBook at a random coffee shop

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Voting on a country level here is too coarse, this poll is invalid. I live in Vietnam and I can see it's getting colored red already but that's unfair. If you're in Ho Chi Minh City or Hanoi, then for sure you couldn't safely leave your laptop in a cafe. But if youuuUse the edit icon to pin, add or delete clips.'re in a smaller town then you'll be fine. But doesn't that apply to basically every country? I assume that…

The page says Starbucks, not a random area, random coffee shop. I think it is a valid test. Starbucks is properly staffs, in reasonably busy area, the shop is enclosed.

> The page says Starbucks, not a random area, random coffee shop.

Yes but the HN title says "random coffee shop".

Re: Show HN: Countries where you can leave your MacBook at a random coffee shop

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I mean, I wouldn't leave an unattended laptop anywhere. Maybe the real test is "if you had forgotten your laptop at a coffee shop for ten minutes, what probability would you assign to going back there and successfully recovering it?".

For Greece, it would be pretty high, but I wouldn't just randomly leave a laptop, because the off chance of something happening is still not worth the trouble.

Re: Show HN: Countries where you can leave your MacBook at a random coffee shop

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For the US this really needs to broken down by state and even county. I know places were you can leave valuables with little likelihood of them being stolen and places where they would be gone in seconds. Small towns where most people know each other are very different to large cities.

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Interesting, the map author marked Crimea as part of Russia, but for some reason doesn't mark 4 other Ukranian regions as Russian. Cannot choose the right side?

Surely they’re using a third party mapping library and they have absolutely 0 control over what the borders look like in disputed areas.

Re: Show HN: Countries where you can leave your MacBook at a random coffee shop

#39
My first day in Japan (early 90’s) I was in a train station in Tokyo. A suited businessman waiting in a long line put his briefcase on the floor and left the line for a few minutes. He returned to his spot with a newspaper. The case was still there. He had not looked around nor displayed any doubt nor hesitation. Nobody reacted or noticed.

I was born and raised in New York City. This was science fiction to me.

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