what's the license for HN content?
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Re: Show HN: Hacker News archive (47M+ items, 11.6GB) as Parquet, updated every 5m
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies The user content is supposed to be licensed only Y Combinator and (bleah) its affiliated companies (which are many, all the startups they fund, for example).
Curious why it should be on HackerNews to enforce restrictions on content they only license from you? If it's owned by you and only licensed by HN shouldn't you be the one enforcing it?
Seems like they are trying to do that through the stated legal intermediary (YC)
Re: Show HN: Hacker News archive (47M+ items, 11.6GB) as Parquet, updated every 5m
#34what’s the license? “do whatever the fuck you want with the data as long as you don’t get caught”? or does that only work for massive corporations
The universal license.
Re: Show HN: Hacker News archive (47M+ items, 11.6GB) as Parquet, updated every 5m
#35what's the license for HN content?
At this point, you can train on anything without repercussion.
Copyright doesn't seem to matter unless you're an IP cartel or mega cap.
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#36Re: Show HN: Hacker News archive (47M+ items, 11.6GB) as Parquet, updated every 5m
#37Good for demo but every 5 minutes? Why?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh, fuck that agreement. I'm kind of old school in that I believe if you put it on the internet without an auth-wall, people should be allowed to do whatever they want with it. The AI companies seem to agree. Then again, I'm not the guy that is going to get sued...
"I'm kind of old school in that I believe if you put grass on the ground without a fence, people should be allowed to do whatever they want with it. The noblemen with a thousand cows seem to agree." And that, my friends, is how you kill the commons - by ignoring the social context surrounding its maintenance and insisting upon the most punitive ways of avoiding abuse.
Signal and information are not grass.
Grass and property require upkeep. Radio waves and electromagnetic radiation do not.
I don't want your dog to piss on my lawn and kill my grass. But what harm does it cause me if you take a picture of my lawn? Or if I take a picture of your dog?
If I spend $100M making a Hollywood movie - pay employees, vendors, taxes - contribute to the economic growth of the country - and then that product gets stolen and given away completely for free without being able to see upside, that's a little bit different.
But my Hacker News comment? It's not money.
I think there are plausible ways to draw lines that protect genuine work, effort, and economics while allowing society and innovation to benefit from the commons.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh, fuck that agreement. I'm kind of old school in that I believe if you put it on the internet without an auth-wall, people should be allowed to do whatever they want with it. The AI companies seem to agree. Then again, I'm not the guy that is going to get sued...
"I'm kind of old school in that I believe if you put grass on the ground without a fence, people should be allowed to do whatever they want with it. The noblemen with a thousand cows seem to agree." And that, my friends, is how you kill the commons - by ignoring the social context surrounding its maintenance and insisting upon the most punitive ways of avoiding abuse.
Context is important, but isn’t HN’s social context, in particular, that the site is entirely public, easily crawled through its API (which apparently has next to no rate limits) and/or Algolial, and has been archived and mirrored in numerous places for years already?