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Re: Show HN: A 2-row, 16-key keyboard designed for smartphones

#32

I'm not following. * Does this still expect you to hit every key but some of them need multiple taps? * Are they doing fancy autocorrect-like magic to decide which letter you meant , and if so why use this instead of taking it one more step and using http://minuum.com/ ? * Or is it something else?

I mean for one thing Minuum is dead, the play store link is 404 and the last time I tried it it didn't work perfectly with recent Android versions. Which is sad because it was great when it was still maintained.

Re: Show HN: A 2-row, 16-key keyboard designed for smartphones

#35

Smartphone keyboards dynamically adjust the "hitbox" of each key based on what's previously been typed and overall letter frequencies of the language. So when typing "Paris is the capital of Fr..." [*], the A key becomes much easier to hit than its neighbors. Fun fact: back in the day, when this tech was less refined, certain letter contexts made the hitboxes of some keys effectively nonexistent [0]. I wonder if an a…

Not successfully though. Half the time I hit b or n in place of space. I can type numerous words before I notice. I've thought about just making a new iPhone keyboard app with just a big space bar.

The iPhone keyboard is the least successful tech I use each day.

Re: Show HN: A 2-row, 16-key keyboard designed for smartphones

#36
post #32

I'm not following. * Does this still expect you to hit every key but some of them need multiple taps? * Are they doing fancy autocorrect-like magic to decide which letter you meant , and if so why use this instead of taking it one more step and using http://minuum.com/ ? * Or is it something else?

I mean for one thing Minuum is dead, the play store link is 404 and the last time I tried it it didn't work perfectly with recent Android versions. Which is sad because it was great when it was still maintained.

I believe Minuum is the only app I ever paid for on the Play Store, after having followed it since the Kickstarter campaign. It was the only option that made typing on a small touchscreen feel mostly frictionless for me, contrary to the varying degrees of frustration of other options. As a result, I now hardly type on my phone.

Re: Show HN: A 2-row, 16-key keyboard designed for smartphones

#37
post #32

I'm not following. * Does this still expect you to hit every key but some of them need multiple taps? * Are they doing fancy autocorrect-like magic to decide which letter you meant , and if so why use this instead of taking it one more step and using http://minuum.com/ ? * Or is it something else?

I mean for one thing Minuum is dead, the play store link is 404 and the last time I tried it it didn't work perfectly with recent Android versions. Which is sad because it was great when it was still maintained.

That's odd, it works fine on my Android 15 phone.

Re: Show HN: A 2-row, 16-key keyboard designed for smartphones

#38

I'm not following. * Does this still expect you to hit every key but some of them need multiple taps? * Are they doing fancy autocorrect-like magic to decide which letter you meant , and if so why use this instead of taking it one more step and using http://minuum.com/ ? * Or is it something else?

I just tried this out, and the need to double-tap was a total deal breaker making words like "success" a failure.

The other problem with the way this double tapping works is that I encountered missed spaces or other weirdness if I type too quickly. It's as if it's having trouble detecting new keydown events when another key is still down for a split second.

Re: Show HN: A 2-row, 16-key keyboard designed for smartphones

#39

Smartphone keyboards dynamically adjust the "hitbox" of each key based on what's previously been typed and overall letter frequencies of the language. So when typing "Paris is the capital of Fr..." [*], the A key becomes much easier to hit than its neighbors. Fun fact: back in the day, when this tech was less refined, certain letter contexts made the hitboxes of some keys effectively nonexistent [0]. I wonder if an a…

Not successfully though. Half the time I hit b or n in place of space. I can type numerous words before I notice. I've thought about just making a new iPhone keyboard app with just a big space bar. The iPhone keyboard is the least successful tech I use each day.

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Re: Show HN: A 2-row, 16-key keyboard designed for smartphones

#40

I'm not following. * Does this still expect you to hit every key but some of them need multiple taps? * Are they doing fancy autocorrect-like magic to decide which letter you meant , and if so why use this instead of taking it one more step and using http://minuum.com/ ? * Or is it something else?

I just tried this out, and the need to double-tap was a total deal breaker making words like "success" a failure. The other problem with the way this double tapping works is that I encountered missed spaces or other weirdness if I type too quickly. It's as if it's having trouble detecting new keydown events when another key is still down for a split second.

There is, understandably, a slight delay with double-tapping, so using simultaneous key presses can help improve speed when typing quickly. Thank you for your feedback.
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