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Re: Show HN: Oh Yah – Routine management app I built for my sons

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There is a thing called „routine cards“ for children which is how we handle morning/evening routines. They are colourful cards that you can velcro on in any order. Similar things are available for weekly routines

Glad that works for you! We tried paper-based routines but they didn't stick for us. The timer helps them realize tasks take less time than they think, and the photo proof solves disputes about task quality when sometimes their "done" meant rushed with minimal effort :D

Re: Show HN: Oh Yah – Routine management app I built for my sons

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I wrote up a screen plan for my kids. They get an hour of screentime a day (2 hrs on weekends). They have to write on the whiteboard the time they start, and I have a camera watching the whiteboard (with sound off) if I need to verify they put their devices back afterwards (I've never had to audit them yet).

It has worked wonders. It is not perfect but my two 8 and 10 year old daughters have used it. My 12 year old son, battles me in every way, but I feel like it is a small war instead of WWIII now.

They get a bonus of screen time before school if they get all their chores done. The whiteboard has all those chores. I hate them having screen time before school, but I like that I no longer am fighting with them to get their socks on.

This is a drastic improvement from a few months back.

Re: Show HN: Oh Yah – Routine management app I built for my sons

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gotta get them hooked early. You really shouldn't need apps at any age to keep you on track with tasks.

It's easy to judge, but the alternative might be a kid that's on his phone anyway, but struggles to have a structured routine.

Sure, but why the kid his on his phone?

Re: Show HN: Oh Yah – Routine management app I built for my sons

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The app itself is a great idea, but looking through the demo video I see lots of bad "tiger parent" memes. I don't think that I would want to force a child to do these sorts of tasks in a regimen, or be forced as a child to perform them.

The demo video (which does showcase the app well), includes things like chess and piano and homework. Does the child like doing any of these? Have you vetted the homework as worth the child's time?

Missing from the list are things that translate to adulthood, like physically training every day and performing useful tasks like chores in exchange for something like money. You have to exercise as an adult even if you don't want to, it's part of the human condition. If you don't become accustomed to conditioning as an adolescent and only exercise through sports, it can be difficult to stay fit as an adult. You have to perform useful work because we live in a world of scarcity, but doing hobbies that don't interest you because they impress people or your parents told you to do them as a child is absolutely nuts.

I should add: I'm not criticizing your parenting decisions, obviously I have none of the relevant context, but I thought I would convey a sentiment that may exist in your market demographic, which you maybe don't share.

Re: Show HN: Oh Yah – Routine management app I built for my sons

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Not to criticize the idea, but do we really need to give our kids yet _more_ screen time, especially young ones? Pedagogically, what is the message for them here? You need a phone for everything?

Not all time spent interacting with a screen is "screen time".

The problematic thing is kids spending endless hours just absorbing rather than playing or interacting or doing stuff. It culminates in kids (and adults) who cannot mentally handle being bored- they must have the screen to relieve the horrors of the idle mind.

If achieving these same goals is easier without an app for you and your kids, then by all means, do that. But an app on a screen is a very powerful tool to structure and organize things. My daughter is still a bit young for this one, but I can see how useful it will be when she's a couple years older.

Re: Show HN: Oh Yah – Routine management app I built for my sons

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I wrote up a screen plan for my kids. They get an hour of screentime a day (2 hrs on weekends). They have to write on the whiteboard the time they start, and I have a camera watching the whiteboard (with sound off) if I need to verify they put their devices back afterwards (I've never had to audit them yet). It has worked wonders. It is not perfect but my two 8 and 10 year old daughters have used it. My 12 year old s…

Ah we're pretty similar in that regard. Officially their screen time is 30min on weekdays (excluding the app usage and chess.com) so the app basically digitise that whiteboard + timer concept

Photo proof actually was my wife's idea. She wanted to verify the task quality when she wasn't at home - similar to your audit capability

I guess the 12year old battles will be coming for me next.. Not exactly looking forward to the puberty haha

Re: Show HN: Oh Yah – Routine management app I built for my sons

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Shows a complete lack of understanding of how childrens' skills are developed. Intelligence is built from various sequences. 1. Path integrations. The ability to test without supervision and coaching movements beyond the scope of eyesight, aided by landmarks, without the use of breadcrumbs or maps. 2. Short-cuts. The ability to use the above to create short-cuts in the unmapped and unsupervised, unaided paths. 3. Vic…

> Intelligence is built from various sequences. This is not about intelligence or development of children skills, its about task completion. Your comment sound pretty rude.

Narrowing the concept of what a task is at this age is extremely damaging and limiting to experience.

Naming sequences as "tasks" is tantamount to enslavement into an order of roboticism. This sounds like the beginning of a Bradbury story in which children revolt en masse.

Pretty rude? The entire approach here aimed at kids is beyond rude. It's mind-control.

“A growing body of evidence has found that children’s brains can structurally and functionally change due to prolonged media multitasking, such as diminished gray matter in the prefrontal cortex, where attentional control and complex decision making abilities reside, among other really important skills, like the development of empathy and understanding nonverbal social communication,”

Re: Show HN: Oh Yah – Routine management app I built for my sons

#39

The app itself is a great idea, but looking through the demo video I see lots of bad "tiger parent" memes. I don't think that I would want to force a child to do these sorts of tasks in a regimen, or be forced as a child to perform them. The demo video (which does showcase the app well), includes things like chess and piano and homework. Does the child like doing any of these? Have you vetted the homework as worth th…

>Have you vetted the homework as worth the child's time?

If the homework isn't worth the child's time, what do you suggest? Don't do it and get a bad grade? Parent does it for the child? Ask AI to do it? (That would still take time and thus should probably be on the schedule.) Talk to the teacher to ask it not be done?

Re: Show HN: Oh Yah – Routine management app I built for my sons

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The app itself is a great idea, but looking through the demo video I see lots of bad "tiger parent" memes. I don't think that I would want to force a child to do these sorts of tasks in a regimen, or be forced as a child to perform them. The demo video (which does showcase the app well), includes things like chess and piano and homework. Does the child like doing any of these? Have you vetted the homework as worth th…

Fair points, and I appreciate the candid feedback. The demo tasks were chosen to showcase different task types (timed, photo-proof, etc) rather than being prescriptive about what kids should do. But I can see how it reads as "tiger parent starter pack"

For context: my older son genuinely enjoys chess and piano, and this structured schedule approach was recommended by their child psychologist. We tried paper-based scheduling but it didn't stick, so my wife asked me to build an app to help

Your point about useful adult skills is well taken. The hope is they internalise the habit of planning and following through, so eventually they can set their own schedules. We'll see how it goes

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