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Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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Ah, goody. Looks like I found the only other Wayland user on HN. ;) You should also post here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44837981

On the KDE side, Wayland has been going pretty well. Wayland sessions make up 82% of all sessions with telemetry enabled. https://blogs.kde.org/2025/03/15/this-week-in-plasma-file-tr... For me the real conundrum was SwayWM vs KDE Wayland rather than any X.org session; I really felt like SwayWM was a good upgrade from i3wm and gave me a better desktop session with much less hacks. Hope to see wlroots push forward and…

> Wayland sessions make up 82% of all sessions with telemetry enabled.

That is a significant caveat.

Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the KDE side, Wayland has been going pretty well. Wayland sessions make up 82% of all sessions with telemetry enabled. https://blogs.kde.org/2025/03/15/this-week-in-plasma-file-tr... For me the real conundrum was SwayWM vs KDE Wayland rather than any X.org session; I really felt like SwayWM was a good upgrade from i3wm and gave me a better desktop session with much less hacks. Hope to see wlroots push forward and…

> Wayland sessions make up 82% of all sessions with telemetry enabled . That is a significant caveat.

Do you have any reason to believe that Wayland users are more likely than X users to enable telemetry?

Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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> Wayland sessions make up 82% of all sessions with telemetry enabled . That is a significant caveat.

Do you have any reason to believe that Wayland users are more likely than X users to enable telemetry?

Nothing solid. It would be entertaining if it were the opposite. But unless we have a really good reason to think we know which way it leans, the unknown unknown means I wouldn't want to trust the numbers.

Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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Heavy customization is important to me on the Linux desktop. This project has given me a lot more faith in Wayland than 5 years of hearing debates about it.

FWIW, as a ... Wayland skeptic/pessimist¹, screen locking does seem to be one place where things actually work and seem more sensible than under X. ¹ It always seems to be just around the next corner. Sixteen years on, it would be nice if we could have feature parity.

From my understanding, the security decisions around things like screen locking are the source of many of the pain points holding back X11 users from wayland.. Things like xtest(send input events from random sources), screen grabbing/video recording(allowing another app to see the contents of another window from a potentially different security domain), focus grabbing, input sniffing, are all difficult on wayland, specifically because they are serious security issues on X11, especially in light of a modern understanding of the risk profile.

Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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> Wayland sessions make up 82% of all sessions with telemetry enabled . That is a significant caveat.

Do you have any reason to believe that Wayland users are more likely than X users to enable telemetry?

On a distro with wayland as the default, users are probably defaulting to allowing telemetry as well. (maybe? Just a guess ...)

Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, as a ... Wayland skeptic/pessimist¹, screen locking does seem to be one place where things actually work and seem more sensible than under X. ¹ It always seems to be just around the next corner. Sixteen years on, it would be nice if we could have feature parity.

From my understanding, the security decisions around things like screen locking are the source of many of the pain points holding back X11 users from wayland.. Things like xtest(send input events from random sources), screen grabbing/video recording(allowing another app to see the contents of another window from a potentially different security domain), focus grabbing, input sniffing, are all difficult on wayland, sp…

Yes, many of Wayland's problems come down to particular ideas about security at the expense of functionality. But IMHO screen locking is a rare exception because the overly restrictive approach is actually fairly reasonable here, and the set of features to (not) implement is smaller.

Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the KDE side, Wayland has been going pretty well. Wayland sessions make up 82% of all sessions with telemetry enabled. https://blogs.kde.org/2025/03/15/this-week-in-plasma-file-tr... For me the real conundrum was SwayWM vs KDE Wayland rather than any X.org session; I really felt like SwayWM was a good upgrade from i3wm and gave me a better desktop session with much less hacks. Hope to see wlroots push forward and…

I run Wayland but I'm not happy about it. Most autoclickers still don't work, and autotypers need sudo and group magic to get working.

I get it's something you need but for the average user autotypers and clickers not working easily without permissions is a definite positive.

It's entirely the point of moving to Wayland for many.

Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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Do you have any reason to believe that Wayland users are more likely than X users to enable telemetry?

On a distro with wayland as the default, users are probably defaulting to allowing telemetry as well. (maybe? Just a guess ...)

KDE telemetry is strictly opt-in, it is something that you are prompted for during the first setup wizard.

Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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Ah, goody. Looks like I found the only other Wayland user on HN. ;) You should also post here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44837981

I count for at least two!

Wayland in Raspberry Pi OS (labwc)

Wayland in Debian: Bookworm (Sway), Trixie (labwc)

Re: Show HN: Play Pokémon to unlock your Wayland session

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Incredible that we're getting something like this before a plain good old screensaver

For use with vintage computers that use CRTs? If not, what kind of oddball display / use-case do you have, where it would be better to play a screensaver than to follow the usual modern flow of display dim -> display black -> display sleep -> computer lock -> [maybe] computer sleep?

OLED. KDE has kinda a workaround with lock delay.

I use steam deck with TV as a media PC and it's OLED, I don't want to lock a media PC nor want to display a static picture on it.

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