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Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by John7878781 »

timje1 wrote: post #22
chippiewill wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, the UK Police wouldn't typically let you get away with "it's just a joke". This would constitute a mixture of identity theft, fake ID and misuse of computers.

It's literally just sticking the MPs name into an AI and asking for it to generate a mock ID for them. None of their real data is being used (e.g. their face, their DoB, the address) and the mock IDs wouldn't fool anyone for a second. I'd love if someone who understands the law would weigh in though

It's better to be safe than sorry. For your own best interest, I would shut down the site and delete this post.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by crinkly »

travisgriggs wrote: post #28
crinkly wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MPs will be immediately trying to hang the civil service for telling them this was a good idea. Don't expect legal action. Do expect buck passing.

I wish there was a modern day version of "Yes, [Prime] Minister" for this kind of stuff. It's like the episodes could write themselves by the week.

Well having worked for the government in an ancillary security role about 20 years ago on contract, I don't think they could produce a parody notably worse than reality to use as a contrast. Today, I suspect it is worse.

Hire an expert they said. From the pool of experts they had heard about through contacts in the civil service. None of whom have any industry or real world experience. At best, someone was on an industry eating and drinking with the right people panel. I was there for 3 months and crawled back to my previous job cap in hand, bruised and educated.

It was long enough ago that I can away with rounding errors of months on my CV thank goodness...

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by tialaramex »

arrowsmith wrote: post #18
timje1 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's literally just the MPs name. It's a fake DoB (because their DoB's aren't public knowledge anymore) all the numbers and such are nonsense, the images wouldn't fool a human for one second. The AI tools don't let you generate an ID for any real human being (because that sounds like all sorts of fraud) so you can't upload a picture of the MP or anything like that - so I just let the model fill in whatever face it th…

> because their DoB's aren't public knowledge anymore Most are on Wikipedia, no?

Even if they weren't, most MPs will be old enough that their top level Birth Records are available, so if they don't have a common name or you know enough biographical details you can find them anyway. If they've got a weird name like Elon Musk you just go name -> DOB in one step, if they're a Sarah Black maybe you need to know approximate age, birth name, rough part of the country where they were born. For super common names like John Smith you will need to know the mother's name, year and specific location of birth at which point yeah you're closer to just knowing their DoB anyway.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by shubb »

qualeed wrote: post #11
Mindwipe wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only way you'd ever get found out is if the affected MP was lying to the public and the identity documents do indeed get retained...

> The only way you'd ever get found out is if the affected MP was lying to the public and the identity documents do indeed get retained... I'm more talking about the developer of the site rather than the users. And the developer could potentially be found out if they posted it on a popular hacking website and used a known alias and registered the domain in the UK. But, if they're comfortable, all the more power to th…

If I was that developer, I'd blacklist embedding of all British MPs and councilors to avoid fraud. This would also block the entire UK political class from accessing adult materials (I got blocked by a wine forum), which would be a very effective protest...

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by ben_w »

thorum wrote: post #33

Unintended side effect, UK MPs can now watch as much porn as they want with plausible deniability.

Unless they're being filmed while watching it because they watched it in parliament: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/neil-parish-b...

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by crinkly »

bargainbin wrote: post #7
DalasNoin wrote: post #5

Always tells me that the MP wasn't found for my selected area.

Just like any other interaction with your local MP…

Hey now, mine's pretty responsive. Just the response is about as useful as letting a chimp at a typewriter.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by dom96 »

timje1 wrote: post #14
Mindwipe wrote: post #8

Always tells me an MP can't be found despite multiple attempts.

Seems like open AI is rate limiting me for a minute, I didn't expect to get top of HN this quickly. Use Starmer's for now - WC2B6NH

Why didn't you just create the images for all 650 MPs ahead of time?

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by arrowsmith »

tialaramex wrote: post #34
arrowsmith wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because their DoB's aren't public knowledge anymore Most are on Wikipedia, no?

Even if they weren't, most MPs will be old enough that their top level Birth Records are available, so if they don't have a common name or you know enough biographical details you can find them anyway. If they've got a weird name like Elon Musk you just go name -> DOB in one step, if they're a Sarah Black maybe you need to know approximate age, birth name, rough part of the country where they were born. For super com…

where are these public birth records?
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