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Re: Show HN: Piano Trainer – Learn piano scales, chords and more using MIDI

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This is cool. I am wondering if anyone knows if there is a game like Guitar Hero (old playstation game with a custom controller), but for piano and with MIDI input support, something to practice the mechanical skills, preferably with a library of beginner-friendly charts?

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Re: Show HN: Piano Trainer – Learn piano scales, chords and more using MIDI

#33
Awesome! I don't know how to play the piano, so I built a little midi piano app[0] and then realized I didn't know how to make the app teach me how to play. I've been looking through other "how to play" apps, and got some interesting ideas, but I love how straightforward your approach is. I'm definitely at the level where simply practicing and reinforcing scales would help a lot, so I'd love to add a similar type of functionality to my app. Thanks for putting this together!

[0] https://midi-speaker.com/

Re: Show HN: Piano Trainer – Learn piano scales, chords and more using MIDI

#34
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Honestly reddit is so fucking tiring. If you don't have a piano teacher 3x a week you'll never learn? Huh? Most famous pop piano players learned by themselves just noodling, and they have bad technique, but they still amaze. Same with guitar. Anyone who's super good at an instrument is going to get there however.

You'd be surprised how many famous pop piano players didn't just have lessons, they had advanced training. Elton John studied at the Royal Academy of Music. Alicia Keys is classically trained. Lady Gaga had lessons from the age of 4. Even someone like Vangelis - nominally self-taught, and not a reader or writer - had lessons when he was starting out.

There are many many examples on both sides. That you can cite many who have had a lot of classical training doesn't disprove the point that many others have had minimal training.

Re: Show HN: Piano Trainer – Learn piano scales, chords and more using MIDI

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It's something most piano teachers advise AGAINST. But I am of the opinion that anything that makes you play the instrument works.

Honestly reddit is so fucking tiring. If you don't have a piano teacher 3x a week you'll never learn? Huh? Most famous pop piano players learned by themselves just noodling, and they have bad technique, but they still amaze. Same with guitar. Anyone who's super good at an instrument is going to get there however.

I want to know which professional learned piano as a first instrument with just noodling. Maybe a handful of geniuses, but nothing more.

Re: Show HN: Piano Trainer – Learn piano scales, chords and more using MIDI

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's something most piano teachers advise AGAINST. But I am of the opinion that anything that makes you play the instrument works.

Honestly reddit is so fucking tiring. If you don't have a piano teacher 3x a week you'll never learn? Huh? Most famous pop piano players learned by themselves just noodling, and they have bad technique, but they still amaze. Same with guitar. Anyone who's super good at an instrument is going to get there however.

Honestly, no, you won't. It's very difficult and requires training. Those famous players made music their entire lifes work. Thinking that means you can just teach yourself at 35 with no musical training is idiotic.

Re: Show HN: Piano Trainer – Learn piano scales, chords and more using MIDI

#38
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly reddit is so fucking tiring. If you don't have a piano teacher 3x a week you'll never learn? Huh? Most famous pop piano players learned by themselves just noodling, and they have bad technique, but they still amaze. Same with guitar. Anyone who's super good at an instrument is going to get there however.

I want to know which professional learned piano as a first instrument with just noodling. Maybe a handful of geniuses, but nothing more.

Most people get lessons so saying it is a handful is likely right. However I know a few who play for fun that never had lessons, and they sound good.

Re: Show HN: Piano Trainer – Learn piano scales, chords and more using MIDI

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This is cool. I am wondering if anyone knows if there is a game like Guitar Hero (old playstation game with a custom controller), but for piano and with MIDI input support, something to practice the mechanical skills, preferably with a library of beginner-friendly charts?

One version of Rock Band came with a real 25 key piano midi controller that you used in the game.

I still have and use that keyboard. It is a nice little midi controller that works just as well as any other midi keyboard I have (within the limits of 25 keys of course)

Re: Show HN: Piano Trainer – Learn piano scales, chords and more using MIDI

#40
I'm appreciative of people attempting to help others learn music, so first of all thanks!

I'd suggest people really focus on their ear training though over visual feedback. Just play your scales through the circle of fifths -- set a metronome at 60, go for both hands, two octaves, parallel and contrary motion. Start with major and then move on to the three types of minor. The thing you're developing is internalizing the sound of the scales. Just picking out an F harmonic minor scale and getting a visualization I think is less fruitful for the long term.

Also, for triads, while it is super important to know what the quality of the chords are inside a scale (so that you can pick up your forms like a ii-V-I in any key), I think it's more important to practice the chords themselves. When I was taught, my teacher just had me pick a few keys every morning, and then practice the major, minor, diminished, and augmented triads, with their inversions. Within a week you'll have practiced all of them. Once he could call out any key and I could play them up and down with the metronome at a decent clip, we moved onto the 10 four part chords and did the same. And then did it again in open position. And then... there's always more!

For learning how the triads sit inside a key, I'd suggest playing the triad in the left hand and then playing up and down the scale so that you can start hearing the chord with the mode. So, Cmaj triad, play the C scale up/down, Dmin triad, play D dorian up/down, etc. At least that's how I was taught.

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