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While I think it’s good advice to live as if the equity is worth zero, treating all equity as if its worth nothing, seems a bit over-reductionist when equity packages can routinely be worth millions of dollars. Obviously it’s a crapshoot and should never be seen as a guarantee, I think treating it as zero is bit too far on the opposite extreme.
How did you get to equity packages being “routinely” worth millions when tech startups fail somewhere between 75% and >99% of the time (depending on estimates)? Seems far more likely that startup equity will be worth zero to typical individual contributor employees, not millions
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#32I am too dumb for this. I get a salary and maybe a bonus. I never worked at a company that gave stock or options. When I do I will share the offers to someone that understands this. But I will most likely choose the company that shares my values and ignore the payout (unless it's realky a bad pay)
Even when I had multiple startup offers, "Likelihood of becoming rich" was only one column in a 13 column ranking. I ranked them in sorted order on each column, added up their ranks across columns, and accepted the one with the lowest sum of ranks. I have done this for every of my jobs and it's fine. I add or change columns each time. It has led me (eventually) to my current job which is far and away my favorite.
I kept former offers in the ranking as well, as a sort of "secretary problem" running solution.
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No. I am not going to "shuffle things around". You are playing the hard to get, good for you. For my part, I have hundreds of other candidates to choose from.
You are hiring a cog to fit in the machine then, nothing more. And that's fine for some people who are just "passing through" with no concept of ownership of anything. A lot of people probably. But you're also going to miss out on people that take extreme ownership of success and failure that have really dedicated themselves to various crafts over their life and career. You will never, ever, ever get the performance…
But I will say, we were also careful to accommodate candidate schedules as much as possible, but yes, we did pass on folks who were asking for significantly more than others. It's a balancing game.
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#35Y'all are getting multiple job offers?
Also, they overlap? I was recently given two days to decide on an offer after a ten week interview process. I took it and dropped out of other interviews.
IANAL, the above isn’t legal advice, yada yada.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
How did you get to equity packages being “routinely” worth millions when tech startups fail somewhere between 75% and >99% of the time (depending on estimates)? Seems far more likely that startup equity will be worth zero to typical individual contributor employees, not millions
Case in point: 2 years ago i interviewed at a number of places with mind boggling valuations and most of the places I got offers from either no longer exist or laid off half their staff. It’s a lottery