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Re: Show HN: Comparator - I built a free, open-source app to compare job offers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I think it’s good advice to live as if the equity is worth zero, treating all equity as if its worth nothing, seems a bit over-reductionist when equity packages can routinely be worth millions of dollars. Obviously it’s a crapshoot and should never be seen as a guarantee, I think treating it as zero is bit too far on the opposite extreme.

How did you get to equity packages being “routinely” worth millions when tech startups fail somewhere between 75% and >99% of the time (depending on estimates)? Seems far more likely that startup equity will be worth zero to typical individual contributor employees, not millions

By your own measure, if startups fail 99% of the time, shouldn't one value a $1M equity as $10k bonus? "Zero" does seem extreme, agree with the sentiment that "it's less than you think" but if you get lot of equity in a series-C startup, I wouldn't say that's equivalent to 0.

Re: Show HN: Comparator - I built a free, open-source app to compare job offers

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I am too dumb for this. I get a salary and maybe a bonus. I never worked at a company that gave stock or options. When I do I will share the offers to someone that understands this. But I will most likely choose the company that shares my values and ignore the payout (unless it's realky a bad pay)

This is the way.

Even when I had multiple startup offers, "Likelihood of becoming rich" was only one column in a 13 column ranking. I ranked them in sorted order on each column, added up their ranks across columns, and accepted the one with the lowest sum of ranks. I have done this for every of my jobs and it's fine. I add or change columns each time. It has led me (eventually) to my current job which is far and away my favorite.

I kept former offers in the ranking as well, as a sort of "secretary problem" running solution.

Re: Show HN: Comparator - I built a free, open-source app to compare job offers

#33
post #16

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No. I am not going to "shuffle things around". You are playing the hard to get, good for you. For my part, I have hundreds of other candidates to choose from.

You are hiring a cog to fit in the machine then, nothing more. And that's fine for some people who are just "passing through" with no concept of ownership of anything. A lot of people probably. But you're also going to miss out on people that take extreme ownership of success and failure that have really dedicated themselves to various crafts over their life and career. You will never, ever, ever get the performance…

This isn't necessarily true. You can hand craft a highly independent and empowered team at a large company (pets not cattle), and still have hundreds of candidates to sift through. At JPL, we did this. We were very careful about hiring, but did have many, many qualified candidates to choose from.

But I will say, we were also careful to accommodate candidate schedules as much as possible, but yes, we did pass on folks who were asking for significantly more than others. It's a balancing game.

Re: Show HN: Comparator - I built a free, open-source app to compare job offers

#34
post #6

Y'all are getting multiple job offers?

That is the best way to max your salary. Interview with as many companies as possible, get as many offers as you can, and pit them against each other.

Y'all are getting multiple interviews?

Re: Show HN: Comparator - I built a free, open-source app to compare job offers

#35
post #6

Y'all are getting multiple job offers?

Also, they overlap? I was recently given two days to decide on an offer after a ten week interview process. I took it and dropped out of other interviews.

Sign the first offer, continue interviewing, if you end up switching companies just write a nice email to your recruiter/manager explaining the situation. It wouldn’t be the first or last time that it’s happened.

IANAL, the above isn’t legal advice, yada yada.

Re: Show HN: Comparator - I built a free, open-source app to compare job offers

#36
Very nice visualization, and super useful to learn more about how stocks and vestings work. And that puts an exact number on the price of your soul, and at which point you'll go and start working for a company that doesn't share your set of values

Re: Show HN: Comparator - I built a free, open-source app to compare job offers

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you get to equity packages being “routinely” worth millions when tech startups fail somewhere between 75% and >99% of the time (depending on estimates)? Seems far more likely that startup equity will be worth zero to typical individual contributor employees, not millions

Case in point: 2 years ago i interviewed at a number of places with mind boggling valuations and most of the places I got offers from either no longer exist or laid off half their staff. It’s a lottery

Lottery tickets still have value.
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