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Show HN: Hydra (YC W22) – Serverless Analytics on Postgres

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Re: Show HN: Hydra (YC W22) – Serverless Analytics on Postgres

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[Joe, Hydra cofounder] Yes, you're right and to clarify: Hydra's columnstore is decoupled (bottomless), compressed, and supports multi-node reading. ( https://docs.hydra.so/changelog/changelog#march-2025-3 ) Events, time-series data, user sessions, click, logs, IOT sensor readings, etc. generate a lot of data over time. While on-disk storage works well for Postgres’ rowstore, it’s a poor choice for fast growing data…

Okay, this makes sense. But now I'm confused where postgres figures in all this. If your compute is separate and storage is separate, I should just be able to run Hydra independently without postgres?

Our goal is to enable realtime analytics on Postgres without requiring an external analytics database. Think more towards extending Postgres, rather than replacing it. Postgres brings it's rowstore to Hydra, which is great for transactional jobs. Also, Postgres brings it's syntax, features, and standard Postgres integrations with tools you like to use are the same and works with Hydra. This makes Hydra easy to use and adopt without a major database migration.

Re: Show HN: Hydra (YC W22) – Serverless Analytics on Postgres

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Kudos for the product launch. A bit curious on the product itself, to me the product seems similar to what Neon team does, except Neon doesn't touch the columnar/analytics and just focus on the rowstore. I'm wondering how do you position the product, if let say Neon team (after Databricks acq) decides to support the columnstore format?

Re: Show HN: Hydra (YC W22) – Serverless Analytics on Postgres

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Kudos for the product launch. A bit curious on the product itself, to me the product seems similar to what Neon team does, except Neon doesn't touch the columnar/analytics and just focus on the rowstore. I'm wondering how do you position the product, if let say Neon team (after Databricks acq) decides to support the columnstore format?

[Joe, Hydra cofounder] Hey, thanks! There are similarities, but you’re right to point out that our focus with Hydra is on bringing columnstore-powered serverless analytics to Postgres. We wouldn’t position Hydra differently because we think it’s the right product to help the greatest number of projects and developers in a meaningful way.

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Kudos for the product launch. A bit curious on the product itself, to me the product seems similar to what Neon team does, except Neon doesn't touch the columnar/analytics and just focus on the rowstore. I'm wondering how do you position the product, if let say Neon team (after Databricks acq) decides to support the columnstore format?

[Joe, Hydra cofounder] Hey, thanks! There are similarities, but you’re right to point out that our focus with Hydra is on bringing columnstore-powered serverless analytics to Postgres. We wouldn’t position Hydra differently because we think it’s the right product to help the greatest number of projects and developers in a meaningful way.

I see. What's the catch on Hydra.so in terms of CAP theorem? I assume it's the C one, especially the docs mentioned about read replica. Is there any drawbacks/tradeoff that user should be aware of?

Re: Show HN: Hydra (YC W22) – Serverless Analytics on Postgres

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Kudos for the product launch. A bit curious on the product itself, to me the product seems similar to what Neon team does, except Neon doesn't touch the columnar/analytics and just focus on the rowstore. I'm wondering how do you position the product, if let say Neon team (after Databricks acq) decides to support the columnstore format?

Neon actually does have a columnstore extension with pg_mooncake today. The key difference with pg_mooncake vs hydra is the bet on open storage formats (Iceberg).

(1) https://neon.tech/docs/extensions/pg_mooncake (2) https://www.mooncake.dev/blog/clickbench-v0.1

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