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Re: Show HN: I built didtheyghost.me, open-source tool for your next job search

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Post by dtgmzac »

pogue wrote: post #27
dtgmzac wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting idea! I'd love to know if that's possible too. When we submit our application, usually we also submit a resume. Personally, I do add UTM code (e.g. utm_source) to my links in my resume so I know if it was visited through analytic tools like Mixpanel. However, that's assuming that the person viewing the resume clicks on it.

What format do you submit your resume in? In a doc or PDF you should theoretically be able to load an externally accessible beacon. Depending on how the person is viewing it, you could get some interesting results, including if an LLM looks at it first.

PDF format.

> including if an LLM looks at it first.

Wow, do you have any links / examples of this kind of tracking or have you seen that done anywhere? If it is effective, I think it would be really useful!

Re: Show HN: I built didtheyghost.me, open-source tool for your next job search

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Post by dtgmzac »

trod1234 wrote: post #6

Interesting, I was thinking about doing something similar just the other day given all the shennanigans going on with ghost jobs. There's a lot of time wasted individually by candidates vetting companies. For instance I've had to resort to using OSINT techniques and public records to weed out fake jobs because my cold interview->conversion rate is abyssal (1:1000+). I've seen companies and positions being advertised…

> There's a lot of time wasted individually by candidates vetting companies. For instance I've had to resort to using OSINT techniques and public records to weed out fake jobs because my cold interview->conversion rate is abyssal (1:1000+).

Do you automate the whole process? That's really a lot of applications.

> It would be useful to be able to crowdsource a lot of the due dilligence that must be done individually that could easily be automated as well as see the average turnaround time before rejection, and identify job postings that continuously roll (identical and reposted every 3-6 months)

Currently the platform does this! On the company page, you can see job postings split into "Opened" and "Closed" statuses, as well as when people applied and the turnaround time.

I'm also looking into automated approaches like a browser extension which could be useful if more people uses it.

Re: Show HN: I built didtheyghost.me, open-source tool for your next job search

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Post by dtgmzac »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #4

I love the direction and attempt. What I think is needed to encourage good behavior is a system that scans company job postings, archives them (Internet Archive), performs analytics as to whether these jobs are being filled (compare to LinkedIn data as best as you can, there will always be leakage), and potentially report non compliance around salary transparency to whomever in each state regulates that. LinkedIn doe…

Thanks for the suggestions! Internet Archive is a really interesting approach. I'd say there are a lot of tools out there that scan job postings and if there were some kind of open standard that everyone used, it would definitely make the job search more transparent.

Re: Show HN: I built didtheyghost.me, open-source tool for your next job search

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Post by trod1234 »

pogue wrote: post #30
trod1234 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a number of services that allow you to query that database. I'm not familiar with reassigned.us > OSINT Techniques... Yes that's the one. Its in its 10th edition now I believe, pubbed in 2023. ISBN 9798366360401

Do you have any suggestions for a free tool to query the reassigned numbers database? Thanks for the help!

Unfortunately I'm not aware of any free tool that lets you query it. Each query costs me a few cents so I try to minimize queries. Twilio has a package available in their API to do this.

https://www.twilio.com/docs/lookup/v2-api/reassigned-number

Re: Show HN: I built didtheyghost.me, open-source tool for your next job search

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Post by pogue »

dtgmzac wrote: post #31
pogue wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What format do you submit your resume in? In a doc or PDF you should theoretically be able to load an externally accessible beacon. Depending on how the person is viewing it, you could get some interesting results, including if an LLM looks at it first.

PDF format. > including if an LLM looks at it first. Wow, do you have any links / examples of this kind of tracking or have you seen that done anywhere? If it is effective, I think it would be really useful!

I kind of went down a rabbit hole trying to figure out how to do this in the modern era. It might be easier to send it via email or some other method.

Re: Show HN: I built didtheyghost.me, open-source tool for your next job search

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Post by pogue »

6stringmerc wrote: post #15
toomuchtodo wrote: post #4

I love the direction and attempt. What I think is needed to encourage good behavior is a system that scans company job postings, archives them (Internet Archive), performs analytics as to whether these jobs are being filled (compare to LinkedIn data as best as you can, there will always be leakage), and potentially report non compliance around salary transparency to whomever in each state regulates that. LinkedIn doe…

I’m doing a long term (read: takes months to collect data) investigative journalism piece regarding hiring practices in the United States that tracks with your musing. As in, I’m using tools to actually document who obtained positions and comparing those visible profiles and credentials with the actual listing put out by companies. The motivation has been through personal experience and seeing…patterns…that I wish to…

I'm unable to support, but can you share where you'll be publishing this so I can see it when it goes up?

Re: Show HN: I built didtheyghost.me, open-source tool for your next job search

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Post by x86hacker1010 »

GistNoesis wrote: post #29

I wonder if some escrow protocol would be a solution to the ghosting problem. Something like, when a company make a job posting they must put some cash in escrow for each candidate they are currently interacting with, and if they ghost you by not responding according to a timely schedule, you get the escrowed money. Similarly when the job posting has received applications, that have not been rejected in less than a w…

In an employees market this might work. Are we in a market suitable for this? Maybe not

Re: Show HN: I built didtheyghost.me, open-source tool for your next job search

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Post by 6stringmerc »

pogue wrote: post #36
6stringmerc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m doing a long term (read: takes months to collect data) investigative journalism piece regarding hiring practices in the United States that tracks with your musing. As in, I’m using tools to actually document who obtained positions and comparing those visible profiles and credentials with the actual listing put out by companies. The motivation has been through personal experience and seeing…patterns…that I wish to…

I'm unable to support, but can you share where you'll be publishing this so I can see it when it goes up?

Found a flaw in my methodology but I’m continuing to work on it and unfortunately don’t have a timeline. I may need to partner with an established outlet to access the resources to get the data needed.

That said, I do have an article coming very soon about a related aspect of the application process.

Re: Show HN: I built didtheyghost.me, open-source tool for your next job search

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Post by pogue »

6stringmerc wrote: post #38
pogue wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm unable to support, but can you share where you'll be publishing this so I can see it when it goes up?

Found a flaw in my methodology but I’m continuing to work on it and unfortunately don’t have a timeline. I may need to partner with an established outlet to access the resources to get the data needed. That said, I do have an article coming very soon about a related aspect of the application process.

Do you have a website/newsletter/social media or anything so I can find out when it gets eventually published
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