Congratulations on your advertisement. I personally won't be paying to have free and open source software rented back to me as a monthly subscription, but I wish you the best of luck.
Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
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Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#32In a similar vein: https://www.spyder-ide.org/ (MIT-licensed)
Thanks for sharing. The OP posted a cool project, but 20$ a month for a nice VS code fork is absurd. Plus it's Mac only now.
Why is 20$/month absurd for something that boosts productivity? What does matlab coat nowadays? Sounds like he'd like to be able to improve it further and clients invest in that.
Absurd is people paying 80$+/month for yt tv so they can watch ads.. My opinions.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for sharing. The OP posted a cool project, but 20$ a month for a nice VS code fork is absurd. Plus it's Mac only now.
Why is 20$/month absurd for something that boosts productivity? What does matlab coat nowadays? Sounds like he'd like to be able to improve it further and clients invest in that. Absurd is people paying 80$+/month for yt tv so they can watch ads.. My opinions.
I don't want to pay $20/month for something that is probably going to be mostly unchanged after I purchase. That's like paying rent for tooling. I want to own my tools not rent them.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for sharing. The OP posted a cool project, but 20$ a month for a nice VS code fork is absurd. Plus it's Mac only now.
Why is 20$/month absurd for something that boosts productivity? What does matlab coat nowadays? Sounds like he'd like to be able to improve it further and clients invest in that. Absurd is people paying 80$+/month for yt tv so they can watch ads.. My opinions.
I'm with you. I think, it will have to not just boost productivity, but it has to be an improvement over the cheaper, and very good PyCharm. Given the talking points on the home page and here, the visualizations will have to be worth it for a given use case to forego the introspection and refactoring capabilities of PyCharm.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#35In a similar vein: https://www.spyder-ide.org/ (MIT-licensed)
Spyder is the reason I could become Computer Scientist.
When transitioning from MechE -> CS, every programming interface felt unintuitive and daunting to set up. Spyder made it so simple to get started. It turned python into a Matlab-esque numeric computing interface, got out of your way and let you built whatever you wanted. It reduced the 'time to magic' like no other tool I'd tried. (Can I coin the term : 'time to magic'?)
If I had to setup PyCharm on day 1, I'd never have gone past the my first barrier. Before jupyter & colab, there was Spyder. It remained my trusty IDE for a full year until Jupyter notebooks & VsCode came around.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#36As far as I'm concerned, the subscription model is an instant showstopper, just like web-based UIs.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#37OP, you're selling your tool to the wrong people. HN is not the crowd. This is for core-engineers who want to get value out of coding.
Find people who pay the $1000/yr to use 1 tool in Matlab, and start pulling them away.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#38Congratulations on your advertisement. I personally won't be paying to have free and open source software rented back to me as a monthly subscription, but I wish you the best of luck.
Freedom, not beer.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#39I am a robotics engineer/scientist and I do shit ton of visualization of all kind of high-fidelity/high-rate data, often in a streaming setting - time series at a few thousand Hz, RGB/depth images from multiple cameras, debugging my models by visualizing many layer outputs, every augmentation, etc.
For a long time, I had my own observability suite - a messy library of python scripts that I use for visualizing data. I replaced all of them with rerun (https://rerun.io/) and if you are someone who think Scipton is exciting, you should def try rerun too!
I use cursor/vscode for my development and add a line or two to my usual workflows in python, and rerun pops up in it's own window. It's a simple pip installable library, and just works. It's open source, and the founders run a very active forum too.
Edit: One slightly related tid-bit that might be interesting to HN folks. rerun isn't that old, and is in active development, with some breaking changes and new features that come up every month. And it means that LLM are pretty bad at rerun code gen, beyond the simple boilerplate. Recently, it kind of made my life hell as all of my interns refuse to use docs and try using LLMs for rerun code generation and come to me with a messy code spaghetti. It's both sad and hilarious. To make my life easier, I asked rerun folks to create and host machine readable docs somewhere and they never got to it. So I just scrape their docs into a markdown file and ask my interns to paste the docs in their prompt before they query LLMs and it works like a charm now.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for sharing. The OP posted a cool project, but 20$ a month for a nice VS code fork is absurd. Plus it's Mac only now.
Why is 20$/month absurd for something that boosts productivity? What does matlab coat nowadays? Sounds like he'd like to be able to improve it further and clients invest in that. Absurd is people paying 80$+/month for yt tv so they can watch ads.. My opinions.
Reasonable question but I think people are just burnt out by the Silicon Valley pricing model that has proliferated everywhere.
* Most consumers now swallow a live service model and associated costs that they don’t want
* Most consumers now swallow the costs of west coast tech culture: cost of living, esoteric architectural choices, fad driven development, and hobby driven development
* Most owners of software businesses expect to get rich in a relatively short time frame
* Software is absurdly high margin if built effectively and distributed at (effectively) zero cost. Where do consumers ever see these savings when cost outpaces inflation?
* Record profits and layoffs being recorded by the broader industry
And specifically to the point of productivity tools inherently justifying nearly any price, this argument is fundamentally flawed because productivity is only measurable if it can be strictly defined and good luck with that one. Salespeople have made billions hawking that fallacy and people eat it up because American work culture fetishizes productivity.
This isn’t a critique of OP I really went down a rabbit hole exploring and appreciating this project and hope it succeeds.
The underlying business model of software is dystopian when compared to what it could be if everyone didn’t bind happiness to being cartoonishly wealthy in Menlo Park.