Looks interesting! I’ve been playing with UTM to do aarch64 VMs and I even cooked up a little Sinatra server to do some AppleScript to reboot the VM and do some other things on the host. I’ll look at this as a more robust solution as to be completely honest, UTM has left a lot to be desired at least for virtualization.
Show HN: Lume – OS lightweight CLI for MacOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon
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Re: Show HN: Lume – OS lightweight CLI for MacOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon
#32Is macOS up to scratch to be used as a server these days? Last I checked it would always run into trouble / randomly reboot / become unavailable whenever a new OS update became available. Admittedly this is about 2 years ago. If so, this would be great. Particularly to repurpose older macs.
Personally I wouldn’t recommend macOS as a server OS unless you’re doing something that is specifically macOS dependent (like automated e2e testing of macOS / iOS software). Everything server related that is easy to do on Linux or BSD is at least an order of magnitude more painful on macOS. And like Windows, you cannot run it headless. In fact Windows actually had better support for running headless than macOS despit…
> And like Windows, you cannot run it headless.
As an FYI for anyone who needs/wants to do this, the workaround is a headless display adapter: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D9W2HHM1
Re: Show HN: Lume – OS lightweight CLI for MacOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon
#33Would you mind educating me about use cases for having one or even multiple MacOS VMs on an apple silicon machine please?
I recently used virtualbuddy with a macOS VM to test a developer environment setup with an Ansible playbook.
Worked well for my simple use case.
Re: Show HN: Lume – OS lightweight CLI for MacOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon
#34The title of this post took me about 3 attempts to parse, because "OS" is more strongly bound to Operating System in this context (but presumably it's supposed to read as Open Source)
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#35How does this compare to Lima[1] and Tart[2], which are similar? Also, would it be possible to run BSDs with this? [1] https://lima-vm.io [2] https://tart.run
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Re: Show HN: Lume – OS lightweight CLI for MacOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon
#36Is macOS up to scratch to be used as a server these days? Last I checked it would always run into trouble / randomly reboot / become unavailable whenever a new OS update became available. Admittedly this is about 2 years ago. If so, this would be great. Particularly to repurpose older macs.
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Re: Show HN: Lume – OS lightweight CLI for MacOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon
#37Would you mind educating me about use cases for having one or even multiple MacOS VMs on an apple silicon machine please?
I have an M4 Mac Mini running the following in a VM:
- OpenWRT (previously OPNSense & once Mikrotik RouterOS) using 2x 2.5Gbps Ethernet NICs via USB-C
- OpenMediaVault (Exposing a 4-bay DAS via USB-C, 2x3TB Drives in Btrfs RAID-1)
- HassOS (Home Assistant OS)
On the host, I'm running OLlama and a reverse proxy through Docker.
The whole thing uses 7 watts of power at any given time - I've seen max peaks of 12w when running LLM queries. The drive bay actually uses more than it.
Through power saving alone, it will pay for itself in 5 years over my previous AMD Zen 2 build.
Re: Show HN: Lume – OS lightweight CLI for MacOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon
#38Would you mind educating me about use cases for having one or even multiple MacOS VMs on an apple silicon machine please?
The same use case as any other VM? Isolated systems that are portable, easy to bootstrap and destroy, etc, the list goes on.
Re: Show HN: Lume – OS lightweight CLI for MacOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon
#39Would you mind educating me about use cases for having one or even multiple MacOS VMs on an apple silicon machine please?
The same use case as any other VM? Isolated systems that are portable, easy to bootstrap and destroy, etc, the list goes on.
> Isolated systems that are portable, easy to bootstrap and destroy, etc
So, like Docker but without the part where it's fast or convenient!
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#40I know the Mac hardware is pretty trick, but man, I do most of my dev on Linux and have a Framework Laptop (AMD) running Ubuntu; it's just really nice for dev stuff to work the same way it does on our production environment...
Also, the frequency and size and time to install MacOS updates - like these computers are blazingly fast from the cpus to the SSDs - after an update has downloaded, what could it possibly be doing that takes 30+ minutes to install? I've never had to wait for an apt-get upgrade that long.