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Re: Show HN: Kate's App

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post #14

The header link of static pages like https://katesapp.org/static/What%20Is%20Kate's%20App.html doesn’t work.

The page loads fine on all my devices and browsers. What are you seeing?

Go to that page then click the header link. It goes to https://katesapp.org/KatesApp/.

edit: not a relative link, but a 404 regardless

Re: Show HN: Kate's App

#32
post #9
post #3

If you're dealing with personal health information (PHI), I would advise you to temporarily close your site and hire a lawyer straight away. Whenever you touch this kind of data, regulatory regimes like HIPAA may apply, and you need to be extremely careful. There's not a HIPAA compliance or even a privacy policy statement available on your front page. See https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/privacy/laws-reg..…

Are they a covered entity?

> Kate's App is a tool created to support medical caregivers and the people they care for

Seems like it is intended to be used by covered entities. But it does depend a bit on what "medical caregiver" is intended to mean.

Re: Show HN: Kate's App

#33
Privacy concerns aside, I don't really understand what the point of this is, to be honest. You can already add family/caregivers as authorized users on a MyChart (Epic) profile, which is an actual source of truth, not a separate data store that you need to update manually.

This seems like a good experiment in building a CRUD app, but I'd recommend doing that with something with less liability.

Re: Show HN: Kate's App

#35

contra view to these comments: keep going. I worked in health information privacy and security longer than all of them and the number of sincere people in it is diminishingly small. the field has become infested with gatekeeper nerds and petty bureaucrats who insist you pay their toll to proceed, or demoralized and cynical opportunists who just go along to get along. sure, there are risks, but take them. make a thing…

"Keep going" is great advice, but what we're looking at here isn't ready for primetime by any stretch.

Re: Show HN: Kate's App

#36
Thank you everybody for your comments.

Comments on legal issues: I absolutely agree and 100% plan to get legal advice. In the meantime, if you have personal experience, I would love to learn from you.

Comments on HIPAA: I'm 99% sure this does not apply, since the site is for patients and their families, and no doctors, clinics, hospitals, or insurance companies are involved. All information comes from the family, and stays in the family.

Comments on security: This is a huge issue for me. I've followed best practices as nearly as I can, but I've also been asking around to find out who could do a comprehensive security audit, but haven't yet found anybody I trust. Does anybody have any recommendations on how to find someone?

Comments on terms of use, etc: Yes, this needs to be done, but I figured the terms of use are of no use until there's something to use.

Comments on "novice" and "learning projects": Yes this was absolutely built with love and grand intentions, and no, I'm not a novice. I wrote this because my adult daughter died of cancer recently, and we really could have used this. If I can help others deal with the pain of diseases like this, then I'm going to try. I'll work through the problems as they come up.

Aside from the security audit, I'm also looking for someone who'll do a much more professional design and L&F for the site.

Another issue I can really use advice on is how to show this to the people who need it. People who aren't dealing with the problem right now, aren't interested. How do I reach the maybe 5% to 10% of people who have the need right now?

Re: Show HN: Kate's App

#37
post #16

I don't want to repeat other comments here; but this app smells of a very dangerous attitude: Built with love by novices with grand intentions, with complete blindness to the real consequences that happen when novices are ignorant in their field. If your goal is to "find a learning project," I suggest finding a very different "learning project." Otherwise, keep "Kate's app" private, word-of-mouth, invite-only for und…

How do you know that the authors are novices with "complete blindness" to real consequences? Where are you getting the "find a learning project" goal from?

It sucks that you've been burnt by that before, but it sounds like your employer was the one who screwed you there, not the author of the application.

Re: Show HN: Kate's App

#39
post #33

Privacy concerns aside, I don't really understand what the point of this is, to be honest. You can already add family/caregivers as authorized users on a MyChart (Epic) profile, which is an actual source of truth, not a separate data store that you need to update manually. This seems like a good experiment in building a CRUD app, but I'd recommend doing that with something with less liability.

> I don't really understand what the point of this is, to be honest [...] on a MyChart (Epic) profile

As someone who never heard of either MyChart nor Epic, I'm guessing it could be useful for people like me who don't have those things.

Re: Show HN: Kate's App

#40
Putting aside all the legal issues, I would like to see more details of what it does before I sign up. Seems like you need to register yourself and then get all your family/carers to register and then link their accounts to yours? There should be some screen shots of the app in action (with dummy data of course).

Shame this is such a legal minefield. I do not think you should put this on GA.

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