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Your whole comment history with regards to PHP reads like someone frustrated that the tool they've chosen to shit on is exactly the opposite of what they think it is but they don't want to admit it.
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#32I don't see myself ever using anything other than Laravel, but love these kinds of projects just to see what new ideas they might spark for the wider PHP community. Also interested in https://tempestphp.com/
I was about to start looking for a PHP micro framework. I wish Lumen was still supported.
Symfony 7.2 can work as a micro framework, believe it or not: https://symfony.com/blog/new-in-symfony-7-2-simpler-single-f...
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There is concurrency.. There is Unicode support There is a proposal for generics https://wiki.php.net/rfc/generics For me personally its not a deal-breaker, there are workarounds if needed. but for your question, why not? It's so frustrating to see people just suggesting the "Mainstream" without considering if OP even asked. Edit : Unicode support is not native. So concede this one, but again not a deal breaker as a…
To be fair, there is technically concurrency. But it’s not what you would really expect. But as someone pointed out to me 14 years ago, if you need concurrency in your web request you‘re probably doing something wrong.
There is some very impressive work going on to define how Generics will work in PHP. It’s a matter of when not if Generics come to PHP. I‘m expecting a new RFC for Generics to be created some point next year.
Re: Show HN: Dumbo – Hono inspired framework for PHP
#34Small world! Congrats on getting up there on Hacker News, too!
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I was about to start looking for a PHP micro framework. I wish Lumen was still supported.
Is FuelPHP or CodeIgniter still going? Those were my two favourites back in the day before Laravel came on the scene.
I don't think Fuel is at all, and CodeIgniter is... but not really?
IMO Laravel is kind of the spiritual successor to CodeIgniter, although of course a lot has changed between V1 and V11
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is FuelPHP or CodeIgniter still going? Those were my two favourites back in the day before Laravel came on the scene.
I don't think Fuel is at all, and CodeIgniter is... but not really? IMO Laravel is kind of the spiritual successor to CodeIgniter, although of course a lot has changed between V1 and V11
True true. I went back and forth so much in the early days of CodeIgniter, Rails, Fuel and Cake.
Eventually discovered just building stuff was going to bring me the most joy, no matter the tool. It's been a joy learning PHP again though, even if I do suck at it right now.
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#37I don't see myself ever using anything other than Laravel, but love these kinds of projects just to see what new ideas they might spark for the wider PHP community. Also interested in https://tempestphp.com/
I was about to start looking for a PHP micro framework. I wish Lumen was still supported.
When you say micro framework, what are you looking for? If you're just looking for a routing library then something like Symfony Flex might be what you want.
I find when I start a project I pretty quickly want to add an ORM, models, and maybe some middleware, and then I'm at a point where I might as well just use Laravel because it's fast enough and I know my way around.
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#38perfect. beautifully designed. I will try this for my next side project.
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#39I wish the market didn't determine the technologies we get to work with. because at times the market can be wrong due to incentives. e.g the market was wrong on graphQL. btw Hono is cool, but found the api surface area insufficient for my node.js usecases.
How was the market objectively wrong on GraphQL? I ask a a REST turned GraphQL advocate to be clear but criticisms I hear tend to be opinions or issues with specific implementations but not ones based on the technical shortcomings of the technology
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Re: Show HN: Dumbo – Hono inspired framework for PHP
#40I don't see myself ever using anything other than Laravel, but love these kinds of projects just to see what new ideas they might spark for the wider PHP community. Also interested in https://tempestphp.com/
I was about to start looking for a PHP micro framework. I wish Lumen was still supported.
Can't go wrong with Slim: https://www.slimframework.com/
But if you're looking for something more modern and interesting, then Hyperf looks pretty cool. They have a mini-framework version you can check out: https://github.com/hyperf/nano
It does require Swoole, but that is a lot easier to get your hands on these days