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Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer

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Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer

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Post by blowski »

bilater wrote: post #29
ibdf wrote: post #10

I was writing them email templates 15 years ago... oh... look we are still using tables. How has email markup not evolved?

The argument for this I always get is security. Since email is so critical reducing the surface area of html/css supported somehow makes it secure. I...don't really buy it.

It’s hard to imagine “full CSS support” being a selling point for an email client. Even for a free email client, funded by advertising, compatibility with other email clients is necessary for the advertisers.

Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer

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Post by orra »

Cool that you open sourced this. As you say there's nothing open quite like this.

Not using MJML as a design decision. Foes that simplify deployment a lot, or just keep things lighter? In turn, do you have to strangle a lot of compatibility issues yourself? etc. Thanks.

Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer

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Post by FredPret »

rmbyrro wrote: post #5

I have the personal impression that it would be a net positive if all emails were written as text. Ok, in some cases I see why html would make some sense. In those cases, my opinion is: send text and invite the person to view markup content in their browser. The e-mail context is not suitable for markup, styling, and all this stuff.

Talking to non-tech people means you're going to be copy-pasting screenshots and replying in blue text next to their bullet points that was written in black text.

To say nothing of legitimate marketing emails (which many people rely on to get coupons and deals) that has to feature pictures and the like.

Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer

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Post by Ringz »

rmbyrro wrote: post #5

I have the personal impression that it would be a net positive if all emails were written as text. Ok, in some cases I see why html would make some sense. In those cases, my opinion is: send text and invite the person to view markup content in their browser. The e-mail context is not suitable for markup, styling, and all this stuff.

That's why I am using aerc so that even HTML mails are presented as text in my terminal.

Another problem are mails that don't have the TXT part and *only* HTML.

Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer

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Post by mnutt »

samdung wrote: post #2

Oh! I wasn’t expecting this. I’ll be here a couple of hours to answer any questions.

Looks very nice. I'm curious about "no mjml" -- I've worked with authoring tools in related domains and found that separating the serialization format from the output format has some benefits. It manifested in needing to store editing concerns like "this element is locked" in the HTML when it had no business being in the HTML output.

Re: Show HN: Sendune – open-source HTML email designer

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Post by scosman »

dethos wrote: post #39

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You can use HTML with plain text fallback. That's still the vast majority of marketing/form emails.

HTML works fine, and adds important features like formatting text and links. HTML without images is ideal, as images are often blocked (as you mention).

I prefer plaintext too, but for a marketing email (ie, "confirm your account") consumers will think it feels "off" or unpolished given what they are used to. It will likely lead to churn. Clients can opt to view plaintext if they prefer.

Edit: also it's a bit funny the page you link, useplaintext.email, uses lots of HTML formatting.

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