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Re: Show HN: Celest – Flutter Cloud Platform

#31
I just listened to a podcast episode of the Flying High with Flutter podcast [1] where Celest founder, Dillon, was on as a guest. He came across as capable, hungry to get Celest out into the world, and focussed on solving problems around running dart in the cloud. All the best, Dillon, I'm looking forward to see where Celest goes!

[1] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/celest-the-flutter-clo...

Re: Show HN: Celest – Flutter Cloud Platform

#32
Neat! Looks like you are using Flutter for the web front-end, is that right?

I remember folks complaining about Flutter in the browser. Did that get fixed to an acceptable degree? And does that obviate the complexity of typical SPA framework on the frontend? With similar power?

Re: Show HN: Celest – Flutter Cloud Platform

#34

Neat! Looks like you are using Flutter for the web front-end, is that right? I remember folks complaining about Flutter in the browser. Did that get fixed to an acceptable degree? And does that obviate the complexity of typical SPA framework on the frontend? With similar power?

Right now, we're using Docusaurus, which has been working well: https://github.com/celest-dev/website

Though, Flutter Web has come a long ways recently, especially with the WASM work that's underway [1][2]. Flutter is very well positioned, I think, for web applications requiring a lot of interactivity and complex layouts--the DX is phenomenal. For static sites, it's very hard to beat a pure HTML/CSS/JS stack in terms of speed and optimization potential.

That being said, I think there's a good chance we'll see more work on Dart web frameworks going forward. Projects like Zap[3] and Jaspr[4] and doing great work in this area already. And it's safe to say we may see a Celest Web framework one day!

[1] https://flutter.dev/wasm

[2] https://flutterweb-wasm.web.app

[3] https://pub.dev/packages/zap

[4] https://pub.dev/packages/jaspr

Re: Show HN: Celest – Flutter Cloud Platform

#36

Neat! Looks like you are using Flutter for the web front-end, is that right? I remember folks complaining about Flutter in the browser. Did that get fixed to an acceptable degree? And does that obviate the complexity of typical SPA framework on the frontend? With similar power?

Right now, we're using Docusaurus, which has been working well: https://github.com/celest-dev/website Though, Flutter Web has come a long ways recently, especially with the WASM work that's underway [1][2]. Flutter is very well positioned, I think, for web applications requiring a lot of interactivity and complex layouts--the DX is phenomenal. For static sites, it's very hard to beat a pure HTML/CSS/JS stack in terms…

Thanks, believe you answered my question, though I may not have been clear enough before.

I was asking about the demo app as shown in the video on the marketing site. The kinds of apps we'd be expected to build with this. Was not asking about the marketing site itself, though it seemed nice enough.

Re: Show HN: Celest – Flutter Cloud Platform

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right now, we're using Docusaurus, which has been working well: https://github.com/celest-dev/website Though, Flutter Web has come a long ways recently, especially with the WASM work that's underway [1][2]. Flutter is very well positioned, I think, for web applications requiring a lot of interactivity and complex layouts--the DX is phenomenal. For static sites, it's very hard to beat a pure HTML/CSS/JS stack in terms…

Thanks, believe you answered my question, though I may not have been clear enough before. I was asking about the demo app as shown in the video on the marketing site. The kinds of apps we'd be expected to build with this. Was not asking about the marketing site itself, though it seemed nice enough.

Ah, gotcha! The choice to use Flutter Web in the demo was just for presentational effect. Celest is built to work with all of the Flutter platforms equally.

Re: Show HN: Celest – Flutter Cloud Platform

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, believe you answered my question, though I may not have been clear enough before. I was asking about the demo app as shown in the video on the marketing site. The kinds of apps we'd be expected to build with this. Was not asking about the marketing site itself, though it seemed nice enough.

Ah, gotcha! The choice to use Flutter Web in the demo was just for presentational effect. Celest is built to work with all of the Flutter platforms equally.

Thanks. Is flutter required, or can we use Dart to return html, json, etc?

Re: Show HN: Celest – Flutter Cloud Platform

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, gotcha! The choice to use Flutter Web in the demo was just for presentational effect. Celest is built to work with all of the Flutter platforms equally.

Thanks. Is flutter required, or can we use Dart to return html, json, etc?

Flutter is currently required for the parent app, but I'll be lifting that requirement very soon. Stay tuned!

Re: Show HN: Celest – Flutter Cloud Platform

#40
Question for OP:

Obviously you are committed to Flutter and Dart.

Where do you see it going, broadly?

I’ve used Flutter a small amount and enjoyed it.

But it’s a hard sell to commit fully to it.

The alternatives of native tooling on iOS, Android and the web are not contentious choices.

Whereas suggesting to a team or decision maker that Flutter is the right choice seems like it could be an uphill battle!

As a solo dev making choices for clients that want a cross platform solution I can pitch Flutter as a somewhat rational choice against the cost of seperate builds for iOS and Android. Maybe, depending….

Then there’s the Google factor… what if they get bored and kill Flutter!?

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