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Re: Show HN: Phrasing – learn every language, to any level

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I don't understand what this is. This landing page actually made me annoyed :) . I doubt you will get many conversions based on current landing page. > Try clicking around on some of the words below - and make sure to give the audio a listen! OP I clicked on the text and bunch of tags popped up. I wasn't sure what those tags are or what I am supposed to do after that.

It's a place to learn languages.

Like Rust or Go.

:)

Re: Show HN: Phrasing – learn every language, to any level

#32
> The hardest part about learning a language is knowing what to learn.

I disagree with this. The hardest part about learning a language is finding content and resources in the target language that are both engaging and comprehensible at your current level. It's hard to find books, shows, or conversation partners, all the way through that critical awkward stage from beginner to vaguely proficient.

The parts of the language you need to learn will reveal themselves to you through your interaction with it. And then, either your brain will figure it out intuitively, or you'll be able to look things up if they remain a mystery.

Perhaps being equipped with a base set of phrases will increase your range in the very beginning, but that does involve offloading a lot of comprehension work to your brain's CPU, rather than letting it be handled by your brain's in-built language processor GPU. I'm suspicious about any such strategy for language learning.

Context clues that accompany the language input are a much more powerful way to make language comprehensible, compared to memorizing phrases and adding strain to your already busy brain.

Re: Show HN: Phrasing – learn every language, to any level

#33
Can you add Tamil as well, it’s one of the oldest Indian Languages much like Sanskrit and has millions of Tamil Speaker spread all across South East Asia and has big Bollywood industry with lots of shows. Recently been trying to find a good app for my kids and Tamil is always missing from most language apps.

Re: Show HN: Phrasing – learn every language, to any level

#34

Don't you worry that the ways of language acquisition that work for ultra-polyglots would necessarily work for regular people?

Depends on the context - yes, I do worry that language acquisition will not work for everyone in it's normal form. It takes an intense love for languages to diligently put in the work and go through the 'trough of sorrow' and trust the process. Heck, I love languages, and I've never had the motivation to open up a subtitle track and go through it and make flashcards.

I do not worry that language acquisition will not work for everyone if we can make it accessible enough though. Blame the tools (Phrasing included if you want), not the learner!

Re: Show HN: Phrasing – learn every language, to any level

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post #11

In the landing page I could see this for French : "Toujours produire" découvrira le métier de ta vie de la même façon que l'eau, aidée par la gravité, trouve le trou dans ton toit. If you replace the first two words by "tu", and correct a minor mistake in the third one (add a "s" at the end), it has a meaning but otherwise not. I guess we cannot trust it to learn a language then.

I'm learning French too but I can't see the mistakes you're pointing out... What would be the correct sentence?

Well, I think that it actually has a meaning once you read it in context. Taken out of context it makes a really awkward sentence and made me think of an AI halucination....

Re: Show HN: Phrasing – learn every language, to any level

#37
post #7

I don't understand what this is. This landing page actually made me annoyed :) . I doubt you will get many conversions based on current landing page. > Try clicking around on some of the words below - and make sure to give the audio a listen! OP I clicked on the text and bunch of tags popped up. I wasn't sure what those tags are or what I am supposed to do after that.

It's worth mentioning that this is a playground specifically for Show HN (technically I don't think you're just supposed to post landing pages for private products). The home page is a bit more 'standard'. Perhaps that's clearer for you?

Cleaning up the grammatical information to make it a bit less information dense is definitely on our todo list though.

Re: Show HN: Phrasing – learn every language, to any level

#38
post #15
post #11

In the landing page I could see this for French : "Toujours produire" découvrira le métier de ta vie de la même façon que l'eau, aidée par la gravité, trouve le trou dans ton toit. If you replace the first two words by "tu", and correct a minor mistake in the third one (add a "s" at the end), it has a meaning but otherwise not. I guess we cannot trust it to learn a language then.

I believe that came from the official translation for paul graham's essay, but their site is down now and I can't confirm: https://penelope.jdsfriends.com/DWYL_francais.htm Not saying it's correct, but it's definitely only going to be as good as it's inputs. If we gave it a bad translation, that's on us! Sorry

Sorry, I had not seen the english version it was the translation for. Both French and English version look awkward, they must be read in context ^^;

Re: Show HN: Phrasing – learn every language, to any level

#39
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I look forward to giving user feedback when I’m able to signup. > our Humane Spaced repeition system. Based off of the popular FSRS, our Spaced Repeition System will adapt to your review style. Take a few weeks off? No problem. Want to study ahead one day? No problem. Took a 2 year vacation? We're jealous, but we've got you covered. I really resonate with this. I find that after a long break, I have forgotten a lot l…

Well for one thing, Anki is using an ancient SuperMemo algorithm. I wouldn’t take Anki as a benchmark in terms of spaced repetition effectiveness.

Re: Show HN: Phrasing – learn every language, to any level

#40
Hi!

I would love to try this. I am currently on my 7th language so I am always excited to find language learning apps. So far none of them has beaten a good old language course and consuming media in the language.

Maybe the website has received a bit too much love but I am trying to search for a TV show and the UI is not reacting at all (I entered "How I Met Your Mother" in the textbox below "How to do what you love" on the playground page).

A bit of a strange question I have is who created the pictures for your updates page? The style reminds me of Raycast marketing material which I find incredibly beautiful. I really like the optics, is there a name for this style?

All the best!

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